Fragrance comparison

212 VIP Black MTV vs Forte Classic Black

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 11 Oct 2026 51 ratings analysed

4 wins

212 VIP Black MTV

Carolina Herrera

4.1048 votes

Rank #24,582 AromaticLavender

Full profile Similar & dupes

24%scent match

Clearly different

Forte Classic Black

VÛRV

4.333 votes

Rank #52,475 Warm SpicyTobacco

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

212 VIP Black MTV takes 4 of 4 categories.

212 VIP Black MTV
Choose it for a aromatic and lavender character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in fall, evening wear.
Forte Classic Black
Choose it for a warm spicy and tobacco character. Best in winter, evening wear.

212 VIP Black MTV4/4

Forte Classic Black0/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: 212 VIP Black MTV
Sillage & projection: 212 VIP Black MTV
Value for money: 212 VIP Black MTV
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: 212 VIP Black MTV

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

212 VIP Black MTVCarolina Herrera

Forte Classic BlackVÛRV

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.10/ 5 · 48 votes

Have 51%Had 8%Want 40%

4.33/ 5 · 3 votes

Have 18%Had 5%Want 77%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

44%Love

33%Like

15%Ok

6%Dislike

2%Hate

48 votes

33%Love

67%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

3 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity70

〰 Sillage54

♥ Love / hate78

⏱ Longevity60

〰 Sillage44

♥ Love / hate83

Category winners

Longevity212 VIP Black MTV

Sillage212 VIP Black MTV

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value45

¤ Price value25

Category winner212 VIP Black MTVBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

aromatic100%

lavender83%

leather65%

bitter48%

citrus30%

warm spicy100%

tobacco92%

leather84%

cinnamon77%

sweet69%

smoky61%

Scent match24%Clearly different · both leather

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top15-30 mins

LavenderLemon

Heart2-4 hrs

AbsintheSaffron

Base6-9 hrs

LeatherVetiver

Top

Pink PepperBergamotLemon

Heart

CinnamonPaprikaSaffron

Base

TobaccoLeatherIncenseVetiver

InformationalShared notesLemon, Saffron, Leather and Vetiver. Durations are only published for 212 VIP Black MTV, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring78

Summer22

Fall100

Winter96

Day31

Night100

Spring0

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men89

Unisex3

Women8

Party 40%Date 29%Casual 21%Work 10%

Men100

Unisex0

Women0

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#24,582

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews2

Overall rank#52,475

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winner212 VIP Black MTVHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Carolina Herrera 212 VIP Black MTV brings an energetic nighttime profile built on bitter absinthe, aromatic lavender, and smooth dark leather. The spray opens with a tart flash of zesty lemon that quickly dries down into an anise-heavy herbal heart. It feels loud and distinctly nocturnal. Warm saffron adds a spicy hum…

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VÛRV Forte Classic Black starts with a sharp punch of pink pepper and zesty bergamot before settling into a warm core of cinnamon and paprika. As the initial heat calms on skin, rich tobacco and dark leather take over the base. Built for chilly autumn evenings and cold winter nights, this scent fits casual pub outing…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, 212 VIP Black MTV or Forte Classic Black?

212 VIP Black MTV takes 4 of 4 categories. 212 VIP Black MTV is rated 4.10/5 from 48 votes; Forte Classic Black is rated 4.33/5 from 3 votes. Choose 212 VIP Black MTV for a aromatic and lavender character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose Forte Classic Black for a warm spicy and tobacco character. Best in winter, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, 212 VIP Black MTV or Forte Classic Black?

212 VIP Black MTV lasts longest (212 VIP Black MTV 70/100, Forte Classic Black 60/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, 212 VIP Black MTV or Forte Classic Black?

212 VIP Black MTV projects furthest (212 VIP Black MTV 54/100, Forte Classic Black 44/100), based on community performance votes.

Do 212 VIP Black MTV and Forte Classic Black smell similar?

Clearly different: a 24% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share leather accords. Common notes include Lemon, Saffron, Leather and Vetiver.

Is 212 VIP Black MTV or Forte Classic Black better for summer or winter?

212 VIP Black MTV suits evening wear; Forte Classic Black suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in 212 VIP Black MTV and Forte Classic Black?

212 VIP Black MTV has top notes of Lavender and Lemon, heart notes of Absinthe and Saffron, a base of Leather and Vetiver. Forte Classic Black has top notes of Pink Pepper, Bergamot and Lemon, heart notes of Cinnamon, Paprika and Saffron, a base of Tobacco, Leather, Incense and Vetiver.