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212 VIP Black MTV vs Obscene

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 52 ratings analysed
Some overlap
Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

212 VIP Black MTV takes 4 of 4 categories.

  • 212 VIP Black MTV

    Choose it for a aromatic and lavender character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in fall, evening wear.

  • Obscene

    Choose it for a leather and woody character. Best in fall, evening wear.

212 VIP Black MTV4/4
Obscene0/4
Ratings & consensus
Not scored
Community sentiment
Not scored
Longevity
212 VIP Black MTV
Sillage & projection
212 VIP Black MTV
Value for money
212 VIP Black MTV
Versatility
Not scored
Note pyramid (duration)
Not scored
Fragranxe ranking
212 VIP Black MTV

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance
212 VIP Black MTVCarolina Herrera
ObsceneHelder Machado Perfumes
Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split
4.10/ 5 · 48 votes
Have 51%Had 8%Want 40%
2.75/ 5 · 4 votes
Have 47%Had 0%Want 53%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate
44%Love
33%Like
15%Ok
6%Dislike
2%Hate

48 votes

25%Love
0%Like
25%Ok
25%Dislike
25%Hate

4 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores
⏱ Longevity70
〰 Sillage54
♥ Love / hate78
⏱ Longevity60
〰 Sillage50
♥ Love / hate44
Category winners

Longevity212 VIP Black MTV

Sillage212 VIP Black MTV

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it
¤ Price value45
¤ Price value38
Category winner212 VIP Black MTVBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both
aromatic100%
lavender83%
leather65%
bitter48%
citrus30%
leather100%
woody92%
warm spicy84%
animalic77%
patchouli69%
aromatic61%
Scent match39%Some overlap · both leather and aromatic

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared
Top15-30 mins
LavenderLemon
Heart2-4 hrs
AbsintheSaffron
Base6-9 hrs
LeatherVetiver
Top
BergamotCassisLavender
Heart
SaffronCedarGinger
Base
LeatherPatchouliVetiver
InformationalShared notesLavender, Saffron, Leather and Vetiver. Durations are only published for 212 VIP Black MTV, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season
Spring78
Summer22
Fall100
Winter96
Day31
Night100
Spring0
Summer33
Fall100
Winter100
Day–
Night100
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes
Men89
Unisex3
Women8
Party 40%Date 29%Casual 21%Work 10%
Men100
Unisex0
Women0
InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#24,582

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews2

Overall rank#64,571

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winner212 VIP Black MTVHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Carolina Herrera 212 VIP Black MTV brings an energetic nighttime profile built on bitter absinthe, aromatic lavender, and smooth dark leather. The spray opens with a tart flash of zesty lemon that quickly dries down into an anise-heavy herbal heart. It feels loud and distinctly nocturnal. Warm saffron adds a spicy hum…

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Obscene by Helder Machado Perfumes opens with a sharp burst of bergamot, tart cassis, and dry lavender. The heart shifts into warm saffron, spicy ginger, and cedarwood before settling into a dark base of leather, earthy patchouli, and vetiver. Built for cold autumn and winter evenings, this unisex scent projects a rug…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, 212 VIP Black MTV or Obscene?

212 VIP Black MTV takes 4 of 4 categories. 212 VIP Black MTV is rated 4.10/5 from 48 votes; Obscene is rated 2.75/5 from 4 votes. Choose 212 VIP Black MTV for a aromatic and lavender character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose Obscene for a leather and woody character. Best in fall, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, 212 VIP Black MTV or Obscene?

212 VIP Black MTV lasts longest (212 VIP Black MTV 70/100, Obscene 60/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, 212 VIP Black MTV or Obscene?

212 VIP Black MTV projects furthest (212 VIP Black MTV 54/100, Obscene 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Do 212 VIP Black MTV and Obscene smell similar?

Some overlap: a 39% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share leather and aromatic accords. Common notes include Lavender, Saffron, Leather and Vetiver.

Is 212 VIP Black MTV or Obscene better for summer or winter?

212 VIP Black MTV suits evening wear; Obscene suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in 212 VIP Black MTV and Obscene?

212 VIP Black MTV has top notes of Lavender and Lemon, heart notes of Absinthe and Saffron, a base of Leather and Vetiver. Obscene has top notes of Bergamot, Cassis and Lavender, heart notes of Saffron, Cedar and Ginger, a base of Leather, Patchouli and Vetiver.

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