Fragrance comparison

#269 Noir vs Primero Marocaine

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 19 Oct 2026 159 ratings analysed

2 wins

#269 Noir

Le Ré Noir

4.003 votes

Rank #61,516 AmberTobacco

Full profile Similar & dupes

42%scent match

Some overlap

Primero Marocaine

ArteOlfatto

3.86156 votes

Rank #4,373 Warm SpicyWoody

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

#269 Noir takes 2 of 3 categories.

#269 Noir
Choose it for a amber and tobacco character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, evening wear.
Primero Marocaine
Choose it for a warm spicy and woody character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, evening wear.

#269 Noir2/3

Primero Marocaine1/3

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: #269 Noir
Sillage & projection: #269 Noir
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Primero Marocaine

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

#269 NoirLe Ré Noir

Primero MarocaineArteOlfatto

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.00/ 5 · 3 votes

Have 13%Had 0%Want 87%

3.86/ 5 · 156 votes

Have 40%Had 8%Want 53%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

0%Love

100%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

3 votes · too few to score

54%Love

23%Like

10%Ok

11%Dislike

4%Hate

84 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity93

〰 Sillage88

♥ Love / hate75

⏱ Longevity86

〰 Sillage75

♥ Love / hate76

Category winners

Longevity#269 Noir

Sillage#269 Noir

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price valueN/A

¤ Price value64

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

amber100%

tobacco86%

woody72%

sweet58%

animalic44%

whiskey30%

warm spicy100%

woody92%

tobacco84%

vanilla77%

cinnamon69%

sweet61%

Scent match42%Some overlap · both tobacco, woody and sweet

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Notes

AmberTobaccoWoody NotesMusk

No top / heart / base split published

Top

TobaccoSaffronCinnamonNutmeg

Heart

PatchouliCedarVetiver

Base

VanillaWoody NotesTonka BeanAmberSandalwoodLeatherMusk

InformationalShared notesAmber, Tobacco, Woody Notes and Musk. Durations are only published for #269 Noir, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer0

Fall100

Winter100

Day29

Night100

Spring52

Summer35

Fall98

Winter100

Day59

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men0

Unisex100

Women0

Date 39%Party 31%Casual 19%Work 11%

Men28

Unisex64

Women8

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#61,516

PerfumerValery Sokolov

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#4,373

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews33

Category winnerPrimero MarocaineHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Le Ré Noir #269 Noir hits the skin with dark, unvarnished intensity. The opening unleashes dry tobacco leaf steeped in boozy malt whiskey before molten resin takes over. Expect immediate warmth. Heavy amber anchors the heart, softened by raw cedar shavings and a feral musk that keeps the drydown grounded. You will not…

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Primero Marocaine opens with a warm rush of tobacco, saffron, cinnamon and nutmeg, then settles into a smoother, sweeter drydown with vanilla, woods and a soft leather tint. It often reads rich, spiced and textured rather than airy. On skin, the tobacco can feel creamier and more rounded than it does on fabric. This i…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, #269 Noir or Primero Marocaine?

#269 Noir takes 2 of 3 categories. #269 Noir is rated 4.00/5 from 3 votes; Primero Marocaine is rated 3.86/5 from 156 votes. Choose #269 Noir for a amber and tobacco character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, evening wear. Choose Primero Marocaine for a warm spicy and woody character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, #269 Noir or Primero Marocaine?

#269 Noir lasts longest (#269 Noir 93/100, Primero Marocaine 86/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, #269 Noir or Primero Marocaine?

#269 Noir projects furthest (#269 Noir 88/100, Primero Marocaine 75/100), based on community performance votes.

Do #269 Noir and Primero Marocaine smell similar?

Some overlap: a 42% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share tobacco, woody and sweet accords. Common notes include Amber, Tobacco, Woody Notes and Musk.

Is #269 Noir or Primero Marocaine better for summer or winter?

#269 Noir suits evening wear; Primero Marocaine suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in #269 Noir and Primero Marocaine?

#269 Noir features Amber, Tobacco, Woody Notes and Musk. Primero Marocaine has top notes of Tobacco, Saffron, Cinnamon and Nutmeg, heart notes of Patchouli, Cedar and Vetiver, a base of Vanilla, Woody Notes, Tonka Bean and Amber.