Fragrance comparison

#338 Coeur de Lyon vs Orvaille

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 19 Oct 2026 23 ratings analysed

#338 Coeur de Lyon

Le Ré Noir

4.002 votes

Rank #62,607 GreenMossy

Full profile Similar & dupes

32%scent match

Clearly different

3 wins

Orvaille

Natura

4.3321 votes

Rank #42,081 WoodyCitrus

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Orvaille takes 3 of 4 categories.

#338 Coeur de Lyon
Choose it for a green and mossy character. Wins on longevity. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Orvaille
Choose it for a woody and citrus character. Wins on sillage & projection, value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in summer, daytime wear.

#338 Coeur de Lyon1/4

Orvaille3/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: #338 Coeur de Lyon
Sillage & projection: Orvaille
Value for money: Orvaille
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Orvaille

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

#338 Coeur de LyonLe Ré Noir

OrvailleNatura

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.00/ 5 · 2 votes

Have 18%Had 9%Want 73%

4.33/ 5 · 21 votes

Have 5%Had 84%Want 11%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

0%Love

100%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

2 votes · too few to score

52%Love

38%Like

0%Ok

10%Dislike

0%Hate

21 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity70

〰 Sillage50

♥ Love / hate75

⏱ Longevity62

〰 Sillage52

♥ Love / hate83

Category winners

Longevity#338 Coeur de Lyon

SillageOrvaille

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value50

¤ Price value55

Category winnerOrvailleBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

green100%

mossy90%

earthy80%

woody70%

patchouli60%

aromatic50%

woody100%

citrus92%

aromatic84%

fresh spicy77%

powdery69%

lavender61%

Scent match32%Clearly different · both woody and aromatic

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Notes

GalbanumOakmossPatchouliAmberMusk

No top / heart / base split published

Top

LimeLavenderAmalfi LemonBergamotPetitgrain

Heart

Juniper BerriesPatchouliVetiverOakmossGalbanum

Base

CedarSandalowoodMuskAmber

InformationalShared notesGalbanum, Oakmoss, Patchouli and Amber. Durations are only published for #338 Coeur de Lyon, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring75

Summer0

Fall100

Winter25

Day100

Night73

Spring90

Summer100

Fall70

Winter30

Day100

Night67

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men33

Unisex67

Women0

Casual 40%Work 34%Date 17%Party 9%

Men0

Unisex54

Women46

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#62,607

PerfumerValery Sokolov

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#42,081

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerOrvailleHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

#338 Coeur de Lyon by Le Ré Noir is a bold, uncompromising chypre that brings wild woodland energy straight to your skin. Built around a sharp spine of bitter galbanum, aged oakmoss, and dark patchouli, this fragrance skips modern sugary shortcuts in favor of raw botanical realism. The opening crackles with snapped gr…

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Orvaille opens with a bright citrus and lavender lift, then settles into a green, woody heart with oakmoss, vetiver and galbanum. It reads crisp, aromatic and slightly powdery rather than sweet. This suits shoppers who enjoy vintage-leaning green fragrances with structure and freshness. Its wear usually feels moderate…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, #338 Coeur de Lyon or Orvaille?

Orvaille takes 3 of 4 categories. #338 Coeur de Lyon is rated 4.00/5 from 2 votes; Orvaille is rated 4.33/5 from 21 votes. Choose #338 Coeur de Lyon for a green and mossy character. Wins on longevity. Best in fall, daytime wear. Choose Orvaille for a woody and citrus character. Wins on sillage & projection, value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in summer, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, #338 Coeur de Lyon or Orvaille?

#338 Coeur de Lyon lasts longest (#338 Coeur de Lyon 70/100, Orvaille 62/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, #338 Coeur de Lyon or Orvaille?

Projection is very close: Orvaille 52/100, #338 Coeur de Lyon 50/100 for sillage.

Do #338 Coeur de Lyon and Orvaille smell similar?

Clearly different: a 32% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody and aromatic accords. Common notes include Galbanum, Oakmoss, Patchouli and Amber.

Is #338 Coeur de Lyon or Orvaille better for summer or winter?

#338 Coeur de Lyon suits daytime wear; Orvaille suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in #338 Coeur de Lyon and Orvaille?

#338 Coeur de Lyon features Galbanum, Oakmoss, Patchouli, Amber and Musk. Orvaille has top notes of Lime, Lavender, Amalfi Lemon and Bergamot, heart notes of Juniper Berries, Patchouli, Vetiver and Oakmoss, a base of Cedar, Sandalowood, Musk and Amber.