Fragrance comparison

4711 Carat vs Joint pour Homme

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 25 Oct 2026 105 ratings analysed

3 wins

4711 Carat

Muelhens

4.339 votes

Rank #40,047 AnimalicMusky

Full profile Similar & dupes

31%scent match

Clearly different

Joint pour Homme

Roccobarocco

4.3196 votes

Rank #4,774 AromaticFresh Spicy

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

4711 Carat takes 3 of 4 categories.

4711 Carat
Choose it for a animalic and musky character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear.
Joint pour Homme
Choose it for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.

4711 Carat3/4

Joint pour Homme1/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: 4711 Carat
Sillage & projection: 4711 Carat
Value for money: 4711 Carat
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Joint pour Homme

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

4711 CaratMuelhens

Joint pour HommeRoccobarocco

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.33/ 5 · 9 votes

Have 37%Had 9%Want 53%

4.31/ 5 · 96 votes

Have 27%Had 9%Want 64%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

44%Love

44%Like

11%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

9 votes · too few to score

58%Love

33%Like

5%Ok

5%Dislike

0%Hate

80 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity80

〰 Sillage79

♥ Love / hate83

⏱ Longevity79

〰 Sillage69

♥ Love / hate86

Category winners

Longevity4711 Carat

Sillage4711 Carat

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value83

¤ Price value63

Category winner4711 CaratBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

animalic100%

musky92%

powdery84%

sweet77%

floral69%

amber61%

aromatic100%

fresh spicy92%

woody84%

animalic77%

musky69%

warm spicy61%

Scent match31%Clearly different · both animalic and musky

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top15-30 mins

VanillaAldehydesBlood OrangeSpun Sugar

Heart3-4 hrs

VioletLeatherCorianderCarnationTobaccoJasmineRose

Base8-12 hrs

Synthetic CivetMuskBalsamic NotesAmbergris

Top

BasilBergamotAldehydesArtemisiaCorianderCarawayLemonGreen Notes

Heart

TobaccoHoneyJasmineCarnationRoseCardamomGeraniumOrris Root

Base

CivetPatchouliLeatherLabdanumVetiverAmberMuskCedar

InformationalShared notesAldehydes, Leather, Coriander and Carnation. Durations are only published for 4711 Carat, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer17

Fall100

Winter83

Day44

Night100

Spring41

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men0

Unisex0

Women100

Date 44%Party 28%Casual 16%Work 13%

Men78

Unisex13

Women9

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#40,047

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews1

Overall rank#4,774

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews26

Category winnerJoint pour HommeHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

4711 Carat by Muelhens smells like a lavish artifact from 1938 brought back to life. It hits the skin with fizzy aldehydes, sweet blood orange, and a curious touch of spun sugar. The sweetness fades fast. Within twenty minutes, powdery violet, clove-tinged carnation, and dry tobacco emerge over dark leather jackets an…

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Joint pour Homme by Roccobarocco is a bold, woody chypre launched in 1993. It features an unapologetic, animalic opening led by civet and aldehydes that settles into a rich blend of tobacco, honey, and leather. This is a cold-weather classic, suited for those who appreciate old-school, complex masculine compositions t…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, 4711 Carat or Joint pour Homme?

4711 Carat takes 3 of 4 categories. 4711 Carat is rated 4.33/5 from 9 votes; Joint pour Homme is rated 4.31/5 from 96 votes. Choose 4711 Carat for a animalic and musky character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear. Choose Joint pour Homme for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.

Which lasts longer, 4711 Carat or Joint pour Homme?

They last about the same: 4711 Carat 80/100, Joint pour Homme 79/100 for longevity in community votes.

Which projects more, 4711 Carat or Joint pour Homme?

4711 Carat projects furthest (4711 Carat 79/100, Joint pour Homme 69/100), based on community performance votes.

Do 4711 Carat and Joint pour Homme smell similar?

Clearly different: a 31% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share animalic and musky accords. Common notes include Aldehydes, Leather, Coriander and Carnation.

Is 4711 Carat or Joint pour Homme better for summer or winter?

4711 Carat suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in 4711 Carat and Joint pour Homme?

4711 Carat has top notes of Vanilla, Aldehydes, Blood Orange and Spun Sugar, heart notes of Violet, Leather, Coriander and Carnation, a base of Synthetic Civet, Musk, Balsamic Notes and Ambergris. Joint pour Homme has top notes of Basil, Bergamot, Aldehydes and Artemisia, heart notes of Tobacco, Honey, Jasmine and Carnation, a base of Civet, Patchouli, Leather and Labdanum.