Fragrance comparison

80 vs Soupir Clandestin

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 15 Nov 2026 57 ratings analysed

Reflexion

4.002 votes

Rank #65,537 FloralCitrus

Full profile Similar & dupes

26%scent match

Clearly different

2 wins

Soupir Clandestin

Jacques Zolty

3.7655 votes

Rank #16,163 RoseSmoky

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Soupir Clandestin takes 2 of 3 categories.

80
Choose it for a floral and citrus character. Wins on sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear.
Soupir Clandestin
Choose it for a rose and smoky character. Wins on longevity and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, day or night wear.

801/3

Soupir Clandestin2/3

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Soupir Clandestin
Sillage & projection: 80
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Soupir Clandestin

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

80Reflexion

Soupir ClandestinJacques Zolty

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.00/ 5 · 2 votes

Have 22%Had 11%Want 67%

3.76/ 5 · 55 votes

Have 32%Had 13%Want 56%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

0%Love

100%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

2 votes · too few to score

24%Love

24%Like

31%Ok

21%Dislike

0%Hate

29 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity60

〰 Sillage75

♥ Love / hate75

⏱ Longevity77

〰 Sillage70

♥ Love / hate70

Category winners

LongevitySoupir Clandestin

Sillage80

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price valueN/A

¤ Price value68

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

floral100%

citrus86%

honey72%

rose58%

white floral44%

sweet30%

rose100%

smoky92%

amber84%

woody77%

sweet69%

warm spicy61%

Scent match26%Clearly different · both rose and sweet

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Turkish RoseLemon

Heart

MagnoliaJasmineWhite Rose

Base

HoneyChampacaMusk

Top

RaspberrySmokeLemon

Heart

Turkish RoseImmortelleJasmineMagnolia

Base

IncensePatchouliAmbergrisMuskCashmere WoodCypriol Oil or Nagarmotha

InformationalShared notesTurkish Rose, Lemon, Magnolia and Jasmine. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer50

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night50

Spring60

Summer60

Fall100

Winter40

Day100

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Not enough votes yet

Men10

Unisex70

Women20

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#65,537

PerfumerEugene Firsanov

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#16,163

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews8

Category winnerSoupir ClandestinHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

80 by Reflexion is a bright, rosy floral that opens with Turkish rose and a clean squeeze of lemon. The heart turns creamy and petal-soft, with magnolia, jasmine and white rose taking over. As it dries down, a honeyed warmth and gentle musk give it a sweeter, more skin-close finish. If you like modern florals that fee…

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Soupir Clandestin brings a moody, resinous edge to a classic rose base. The opening is sharp with tart raspberry and a distinct trail of smoke, before settling into a deep heart of Turkish rose and immortelle. It is a bold, unisex choice for cooler evenings when you want something slightly mysterious and textured with…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, 80 or Soupir Clandestin?

Soupir Clandestin takes 2 of 3 categories. 80 is rated 4.00/5 from 2 votes; Soupir Clandestin is rated 3.76/5 from 55 votes. Choose 80 for a floral and citrus character. Wins on sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose Soupir Clandestin for a rose and smoky character. Wins on longevity and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, day or night wear.

Which lasts longer, 80 or Soupir Clandestin?

Soupir Clandestin lasts longest (Soupir Clandestin 77/100, 80 60/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, 80 or Soupir Clandestin?

80 projects furthest (80 75/100, Soupir Clandestin 70/100), based on community performance votes.

Do 80 and Soupir Clandestin smell similar?

Clearly different: a 26% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share rose and sweet accords. Common notes include Turkish Rose, Lemon, Magnolia and Jasmine.

Is 80 or Soupir Clandestin better for summer or winter?

80 suits daytime wear; Soupir Clandestin suits day or night wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in 80 and Soupir Clandestin?

80 has top notes of Turkish Rose and Lemon, heart notes of Magnolia, Jasmine and White Rose, a base of Honey, Champaca and Musk. Soupir Clandestin has top notes of Raspberry, Smoke and Lemon, heart notes of Turkish Rose, Immortelle, Jasmine and Magnolia, a base of Incense, Patchouli, Ambergris and Musk.