Abîme vs Ma Force
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
62%scent match
Closely related
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Ma Force takes 5 of 7 categories.
AbîmeChoose it for a woody and warm spicy character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, day or night wear.
Ma ForceChoose it for a aromatic and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in fall, evening wear.
Abîme2/7
Ma Force5/7
- Ratings & consensus
- Ma Force
- Community sentiment
- Ma Force
- Longevity
- Ma Force
- Sillage & projection
- Ma Force
- Value for money
- Abîme
- Versatility
- Ma Force
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Abîme
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
AbîmeMaison VioletMa ForceSalvador DaliWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split3.93/ 5 · 212 votes
Have 37%Had 12%Want 52%
4.10/ 5 · 60 votes
Have 33%Had 12%Want 55%
Category winnerMa ForceRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate35%Love
33%Like
22%Ok
8%Dislike
1%Hate
212 votes
38%Love
45%Like
8%Ok
5%Dislike
3%Hate
60 votes
Category winnerMa ForceMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityMa Force
SillageMa Force
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerAbîmeBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothwoody100%
warm spicy90%
aromatic80%
balsamic70%
fresh spicy60%
amber50%
aromatic100%
woody92%
balsamic84%
fresh spicy77%
powdery69%
amber61%
Scent match62%Closely related · both woody, aromatic and balsamic
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop30 to 45 minutes
Black PepperChili Pepper
Heart2 to 4 hours
Palo SantoElemi resin
Base4 to 6 hours
SandalwoodCedarIncense
Top
Elemi resinBergamotBlack Pepper
Heart
IncenseJasmineHeliotrope
Base
SandalwoodAmberAgarwood (Oud)
InformationalShared notesBlack Pepper, Elemi resin, Sandalwood and Incense. Durations are only published for Abîme, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring60
Summer21
Fall100
Winter84
Day100
Night100
Spring77
Summer32
Fall100
Winter86
Day86
Night100
Category winnerMa ForceMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#34,109
PerfumerNathalie Lorson
Launched—
Reviews0
Overall rank#36,432
PerfumerVéronique Nyberg
Launched2017
Reviews0
Category winnerAbîmeHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotAbîme by Maison Violet is a dry, resinous woody spicy fragrance built around palo santo, elemi resin, and cedar. It opens with an immediate crackle of black pepper and chili pepper, delivering a brisk, peppery warmth that quickly settles into creamy resins. In the heart, fragrant palo santo joins balsamic elemi resin …
Reviews →Salvador Dali Ma Force is an inviting balsamic perfume that blends snappy elemi resin, zesty bergamot, and cracked black pepper over a calm foundation of incense and sandalwood. It opens with an energetic, pine-tinted citrus kick before settling into a smooth woody warmth that stays close to your skin. Powdery heliotr…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Abîme or Ma Force?
Ma Force takes 5 of 7 categories. Abîme is rated 3.93/5 from 212 votes; Ma Force is rated 4.10/5 from 60 votes. Choose Abîme for a woody and warm spicy character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, day or night wear. Choose Ma Force for a aromatic and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in fall, evening wear.
Which lasts longer, Abîme or Ma Force?
They last about the same: Ma Force 70/100, Abîme 69/100 for longevity in community votes.
Which projects more, Abîme or Ma Force?
Ma Force projects furthest (Ma Force 69/100, Abîme 52/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Abîme and Ma Force smell similar?
Closely related: a 62% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, aromatic and balsamic accords. Common notes include Black Pepper, Elemi resin, Sandalwood and Incense.
Is Abîme or Ma Force better for summer or winter?
For summer, Ma Force is the stronger pick. For winter, Ma Force is the stronger pick. Abîme suits day or night wear; Ma Force suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Abîme and Ma Force?
Abîme has top notes of Black Pepper and Chili Pepper, heart notes of Palo Santo and Elemi resin, a base of Sandalwood, Cedar and Incense. Ma Force has top notes of Elemi resin, Bergamot and Black Pepper, heart notes of Incense, Jasmine and Heliotrope, a base of Sandalwood, Amber and Agarwood (Oud).
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