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Athalia vs Unforgivable Women

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 2,269 ratings analysed
Clearly different
Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Unforgivable Women takes 5 of 7 categories.

  • Athalia

    Choose it for a powdery and iris character. Wins on ratings & consensus and longevity. Best in winter, daytime wear.

  • Unforgivable Women

    Choose it for a woody and powdery character. Wins on community sentiment, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.

Athalia2/7
Unforgivable Women5/7
Ratings & consensus
Athalia
Community sentiment
Unforgivable Women
Longevity
Athalia
Sillage & projection
Unforgivable Women
Value for money
Unforgivable Women
Versatility
Unforgivable Women
Note pyramid (duration)
Not scored
Fragranxe ranking
Unforgivable Women

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance
AthaliaParfums de Marly
Unforgivable WomenSean John
Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split
3.80/ 5 · 1,592 votes
Have 76%Had 24%Want 0%
3.79/ 5 · 677 votes
Have 58%Had 42%Want 0%
Category winnerAthaliaRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate
35%Love
32%Like
15%Ok
16%Dislike
3%Hate

1,592 votes

30%Love
44%Like
3%Ok
23%Dislike
1%Hate

677 votes

Category winnerUnforgivable WomenMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores
⏱ Longevity67
〰 Sillage57
♥ Love / hate70
⏱ Longevity62
〰 Sillage59
♥ Love / hate70
Category winners

LongevityAthalia

SillageUnforgivable Women

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it
¤ Price value23
¤ Price value67
Category winnerUnforgivable WomenBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both
powdery100%
iris90%
musky80%
amber70%
violet60%
earthy50%
woody100%
powdery92%
fruity84%
citrus77%
earthy69%
fresh61%
Scent match28%Clearly different · both powdery and earthy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared
Top15-30 mins
Bitter OrangeFrankincense
Heart2-4 hrs
IrisOrange BlossomCashmeran
Base6-8+ hrs
White MuskAmberVanilla
Top
PearBitter OrangeAppleCassiaGrapefruitNeroliBergamot
Heart
JasmineFreesiaOrange BlossomVioletRoseCyclamenLily-of-the-Valley
Base
SandalwoodPatchouliIrisTonka BeanCedarVanillaAmberOakmoss
InformationalShared notesBitter Orange, Iris, Orange Blossom and Amber. Durations are only published for Athalia, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season
Spring82
Summer0
Fall0
Winter100
Day100
Night79
Spring88
Summer0
Fall0
Winter100
Day–
Night–
Category winnerUnforgivable WomenMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes
Men1
Unisex18
Women80
Work 31%Casual 29%Date 25%Party 14%
Men0
Unisex15
Women85
InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#5,670

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews201

Overall rank#2,804

PerfumerDavid Apel

Launched—

Reviews146

Category winnerUnforgivable WomenHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Athalia by Parfums de Marly takes the traditional powdery floral structure and pulls it into mysterious territory. It starts with a brief flick of tart bitter orange and cool frankincense that feels brisk rather than churchy. Within twenty minutes, the star player takes over. A plush, cosmetic iris unfolds alongside c…

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Unforgivable Women by Sean John is a complex, woody, and powdery floral fragrance released in 2007. It centers on an intricate layering of pear, bitter orange, and neroli over a deep base of sandalwood and amber. This versatile scent performs well during the transition from summer to autumn, offering a balanced, non-s…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Athalia or Unforgivable Women?

Unforgivable Women takes 5 of 7 categories. Athalia is rated 3.80/5 from 1,592 votes; Unforgivable Women is rated 3.79/5 from 677 votes. Choose Athalia for a powdery and iris character. Wins on ratings & consensus and longevity. Best in winter, daytime wear. Choose Unforgivable Women for a woody and powdery character. Wins on community sentiment, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.

Which lasts longer, Athalia or Unforgivable Women?

Athalia lasts longest (Athalia 67/100, Unforgivable Women 62/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Athalia or Unforgivable Women?

Projection is very close: Unforgivable Women 59/100, Athalia 57/100 for sillage.

Do Athalia and Unforgivable Women smell similar?

Clearly different: a 28% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share powdery and earthy accords. Common notes include Bitter Orange, Iris, Orange Blossom and Amber.

Is Athalia or Unforgivable Women better for summer or winter?

For summer, Athalia is the stronger pick. For winter, Athalia is the stronger pick. Athalia suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Athalia and Unforgivable Women?

Athalia has top notes of Bitter Orange and Frankincense, heart notes of Iris, Orange Blossom and Cashmeran, a base of White Musk, Amber and Vanilla. Unforgivable Women has top notes of Pear, Bitter Orange, Apple and Cassia, heart notes of Jasmine, Freesia, Orange Blossom and Violet, a base of Sandalwood, Patchouli, Iris and Tonka Bean.

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