Fragrance comparison

Athena's Rose vs Joy Forever

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 15 Nov 2026 248 ratings analysed

3 wins

Athena's Rose

Orca

4.001 votes

Rank #61,059 White FloralFresh

Full profile Similar & dupes

35%scent match

Some overlap

Joy Forever

Jean Patou

4.02247 votes

Rank #30,981 AromaticCitrus

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Athena's Rose takes 3 of 4 categories.

Athena's Rose
Choose it for a white floral and fresh character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, day or night wear.
Joy Forever
Choose it for a aromatic and citrus character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Athena's Rose3/4

Joy Forever1/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Athena's Rose
Sillage & projection: Athena's Rose
Value for money: Athena's Rose
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Joy Forever

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Athena's RoseOrca

Joy ForeverJean Patou

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.00/ 5 · 1 votes

Have 7%Had 0%Want 93%

4.02/ 5 · 247 votes

Have 79%Had 21%Want 0%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

0%Love

100%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

1 vote · too few to score

36%Love

44%Like

7%Ok

13%Dislike

0%Hate

247 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity80

〰 Sillage100

♥ Love / hate75

⏱ Longevity54

〰 Sillage55

♥ Love / hate76

Category winners

LongevityAthena's Rose

SillageAthena's Rose

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value75

¤ Price value52

Category winnerAthena's RoseBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

white floral100%

fresh92%

floral84%

citrus77%

aldehydic69%

rose61%

aromatic100%

citrus92%

white floral84%

green77%

powdery69%

sweet61%

Scent match35%Some overlap · both white floral and citrus

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

AldehydesRoseMandarin OrangeBergamotPeachPlum

Heart

Lily of the ValleyOrange BlossomRose de MaiJasmineHeliotropeCyclamenYlang YlangMimosa

Base

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Top

GalbanumBergamotMandarin Orange

Heart

MarigoldPeachJasmineRoseOrange BlossomOrris

Base

White MuskSandalwoodAmberCedar

InformationalShared notesRose, Mandarin Orange, Bergamot and Peach. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer0

Fall100

Winter50

Day100

Night100

Spring100

Summer55

Fall69

Winter45

Day100

Night–

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men0

Unisex0

Women100

Men0

Unisex12

Women88

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#61,059

PerfumerGib Osbert

Launched—

Reviews1

Overall rank#30,981

PerfumerThomas Fontaine

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerJoy ForeverHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Orca's new floral release opens with a sharp burst of aldehydes and fresh bergamot, quickly softening into a lush garden of roses and orange blossom. Peach and plum add a subtle jammy sweetness to the early stages, while olive leaf and saffron anchor the base. It is a modern, clean floral that suits spring mornings an…

Reviews →

Thomas Fontaine created Joy Forever in 2013 to modernize the heritage of a historic house. This floral bouquet opens with bright bergamot and a bitter slice of green galbanum. Peach skin and marigold soften the heart before a clean base of white musk and cedar anchors the dry down. It suits spring afternoons and polis…

Reviews →

InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Athena's Rose or Joy Forever?

Athena's Rose takes 3 of 4 categories. Athena's Rose is rated 4.00/5 from 1 votes; Joy Forever is rated 4.02/5 from 247 votes. Choose Athena's Rose for a white floral and fresh character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, day or night wear. Choose Joy Forever for a aromatic and citrus character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Athena's Rose or Joy Forever?

Athena's Rose lasts longest (Athena's Rose 80/100, Joy Forever 54/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Athena's Rose or Joy Forever?

Athena's Rose projects furthest (Athena's Rose 100/100, Joy Forever 55/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Athena's Rose and Joy Forever smell similar?

Some overlap: a 35% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share white floral and citrus accords. Common notes include Rose, Mandarin Orange, Bergamot and Peach.

Is Athena's Rose or Joy Forever better for summer or winter?

Athena's Rose suits day or night wear; Joy Forever suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Athena's Rose and Joy Forever?

Athena's Rose has top notes of Aldehydes, Rose, Mandarin Orange and Bergamot, heart notes of Lily of the Valley, Orange Blossom, Rose de Mai and Jasmine. Joy Forever has top notes of Galbanum, Bergamot and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Marigold, Peach, Jasmine and Rose, a base of White Musk, Sandalwood, Amber and Cedar.