Black & Red vs No 9
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
Which one should you pick?
Black & Red takes 6 of 8 categories.
Black & RedChoose it for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear.
No 9Choose it for a aromatic and woody character. Wins on longevity and note pyramid duration. Best in spring, daytime wear.
- Ratings & consensus
- Black & Red
- Community sentiment
- Black & Red
- Longevity
- No 9
- Sillage & projection
- Black & Red
- Value for money
- Black & Red
- Versatility
- Black & Red
- Note pyramid (duration)
- No 9
- Fragranxe ranking
- Black & Red
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership splitCommunity sentiment
How voters split from love to hate31 votes
78 votes
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scoresLongevityNo 9
SillageBlack & Red
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itMain accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothNote pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedSeasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonWho wears it
Gender appeal votesRanking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#17,681
PerfumerNathalie Lorson
Launched—
Reviews9
Overall rank#25,757
PerfumerSonia Constant
Launched—
Reviews3
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotMandarina Duck Black & Red hits skin with a brisk pop of Sicilian citruses and ozonic violet leaf. The initial blast feels crisp. Within ten minutes, aromatic sage and bitter geranium take over the heart, cutting through any sugary sweetness with green herbal bite. The base settles into warm tonka bean, dry cedar, and…
Reviews →Eutopie No 9 delivers a crisp, forest-clearing breeze built around crushed sage, tart Italian bergamot, and fresh violet leaf. It does not shout. Instead, this aromatic fougere opens with an invigorating herbal snap seasoned by a touch of warm nutmeg before settling into damp cedar, earthy oakmoss, and clean vetiver. …
Reviews →How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Black & Red or No 9?
Black & Red takes 6 of 8 categories. Black & Red is rated 4.29/5 from 31 votes; No 9 is rated 3.90/5 from 78 votes. Choose Black & Red for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose No 9 for a aromatic and woody character. Wins on longevity and note pyramid duration. Best in spring, daytime wear.
Which lasts longer, Black & Red or No 9?
No 9 lasts longest (No 9 73/100, Black & Red 57/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Black & Red or No 9?
Black & Red projects furthest (Black & Red 66/100, No 9 63/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Black & Red and No 9 smell similar?
Closely related: a 56% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share aromatic, woody and herbal accords. Common notes include Violet Leaf, Sage, Moss and Cedar.
Is Black & Red or No 9 better for summer or winter?
For summer, No 9 is the stronger pick. For winter, Black & Red is the stronger pick. Black & Red suits daytime wear; No 9 suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Black & Red and No 9?
Black & Red has top notes of Violet Leaf and Sicilian Citruses, heart notes of Geranium, Orange Blossom and Sage, a base of Tonka Bean, Moss, Cedar and Vetiver. No 9 has top notes of Sage, Bergamot and Nutmeg, heart notes of Violet Leaf and Jasmine, a base of Vetiver, Cedar, Moss and Musk.
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