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Black & Red vs No 9

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 109 ratings analysed
Closely related
Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Black & Red takes 6 of 8 categories.

  • Black & Red

    Choose it for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear.

  • No 9

    Choose it for a aromatic and woody character. Wins on longevity and note pyramid duration. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Black & Red6/8
No 92/8
Ratings & consensus
Black & Red
Community sentiment
Black & Red
Longevity
No 9
Sillage & projection
Black & Red
Value for money
Black & Red
Versatility
Black & Red
Note pyramid (duration)
No 9
Fragranxe ranking
Black & Red

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance
Black & RedMandarina Duck
No 9Eutopie
Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split
4.29/ 5 · 31 votes
Have 42%Had 9%Want 49%
3.90/ 5 · 78 votes
Have 33%Had 11%Want 56%
Category winnerBlack & RedRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate
52%Love
35%Like
3%Ok
10%Dislike
0%Hate

31 votes

32%Love
42%Like
9%Ok
17%Dislike
0%Hate

78 votes

Category winnerBlack & RedMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores
⏱ Longevity57
〰 Sillage66
♥ Love / hate82
⏱ Longevity73
〰 Sillage63
♥ Love / hate72
Category winners

LongevityNo 9

SillageBlack & Red

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it
¤ Price value78
¤ Price value48
Category winnerBlack & RedBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both
aromatic100%
fresh spicy92%
woody84%
citrus77%
herbal69%
earthy61%
aromatic100%
woody92%
ozonic84%
herbal77%
earthy69%
aquatic61%
Scent match56%Closely related · both aromatic, woody and herbal

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared
Top15-30 mins
Violet LeafSicilian Citruses
Heart2-3 hrs
GeraniumOrange BlossomSage
Base5-7 hrs
Tonka BeanMossCedarVetiver
Top15-30 mins
SageBergamotNutmeg
Heart2-4 hrs
Violet LeafJasmine
Base6-8 hrs
VetiverCedarMossMusk
Category winnerNo 9Longest dry-down: 6-8 hrs

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season
Spring100
Summer48
Fall95
Winter57
Day100
Night69
Spring100
Summer59
Fall59
Winter18
Day100
Night39
Category winnerBlack & RedMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes
Men94
Unisex6
Women0
Casual 34%Work 32%Date 20%Party 14%
Men35
Unisex50
Women15
Work 39%Casual 34%Date 17%Party 10%
InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#17,681

PerfumerNathalie Lorson

Launched—

Reviews9

Overall rank#25,757

PerfumerSonia Constant

Launched—

Reviews3

Category winnerBlack & RedHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Mandarina Duck Black & Red hits skin with a brisk pop of Sicilian citruses and ozonic violet leaf. The initial blast feels crisp. Within ten minutes, aromatic sage and bitter geranium take over the heart, cutting through any sugary sweetness with green herbal bite. The base settles into warm tonka bean, dry cedar, and…

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Eutopie No 9 delivers a crisp, forest-clearing breeze built around crushed sage, tart Italian bergamot, and fresh violet leaf. It does not shout. Instead, this aromatic fougere opens with an invigorating herbal snap seasoned by a touch of warm nutmeg before settling into damp cedar, earthy oakmoss, and clean vetiver. …

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black & Red or No 9?

Black & Red takes 6 of 8 categories. Black & Red is rated 4.29/5 from 31 votes; No 9 is rated 3.90/5 from 78 votes. Choose Black & Red for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose No 9 for a aromatic and woody character. Wins on longevity and note pyramid duration. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Black & Red or No 9?

No 9 lasts longest (No 9 73/100, Black & Red 57/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black & Red or No 9?

Black & Red projects furthest (Black & Red 66/100, No 9 63/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black & Red and No 9 smell similar?

Closely related: a 56% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share aromatic, woody and herbal accords. Common notes include Violet Leaf, Sage, Moss and Cedar.

Is Black & Red or No 9 better for summer or winter?

For summer, No 9 is the stronger pick. For winter, Black & Red is the stronger pick. Black & Red suits daytime wear; No 9 suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black & Red and No 9?

Black & Red has top notes of Violet Leaf and Sicilian Citruses, heart notes of Geranium, Orange Blossom and Sage, a base of Tonka Bean, Moss, Cedar and Vetiver. No 9 has top notes of Sage, Bergamot and Nutmeg, heart notes of Violet Leaf and Jasmine, a base of Vetiver, Cedar, Moss and Musk.

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