Fragrance comparison

Black vs Prime Joyful

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 19 Oct 2026 34 ratings analysed

Black

Max Philip

3.6229 votes

Rank #16,939 FruityMusky

Full profile Similar & dupes

73%scent match

Closely related

3 wins

Prime Joyful

LELAS

3.605 votes

Rank #57,513 FruityWoody

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Prime Joyful takes 3 of 4 categories.

Black
Choose it for a fruity and musky character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.
Prime Joyful
Choose it for a fruity and woody character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Black1/4

Prime Joyful3/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Prime Joyful
Sillage & projection: Prime Joyful
Value for money: Prime Joyful
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Black

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

BlackMax Philip

Prime JoyfulLELAS

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.62/ 5 · 29 votes

Have 40%Had 19%Want 41%

3.60/ 5 · 5 votes

Have 77%Had 8%Want 15%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

28%Love

38%Like

10%Ok

17%Dislike

7%Hate

29 votes

40%Love

20%Like

20%Ok

0%Dislike

20%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity65

〰 Sillage55

♥ Love / hate66

⏱ Longevity80

〰 Sillage67

♥ Love / hate65

Category winners

LongevityPrime Joyful

SillagePrime Joyful

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value64

¤ Price value67

Category winnerPrime JoyfulBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

fruity100%

musky92%

leather84%

citrus77%

woody69%

smoky61%

fruity100%

woody92%

earthy84%

sweet77%

citrus69%

rose61%

Scent match73%Closely related · both fruity, woody and citrus

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Black CurrantBergamotPineappleApple

Heart

BirchPatchouliMoroccan JasmineRose

Base

MuskOakmossAmbergrisVanilla

Top20-30 mins

Black CurrantBergamotApplePineapple

Heart2-4 hrs

PatchouliRoseBirchMoroccan Jasmine

Base6-10+ hrs

VanillaOakmossMuskAmbergris

InformationalShared notesBlack Currant, Bergamot, Pineapple and Apple. Durations are only published for Prime Joyful, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer93

Fall100

Winter29

Day100

Night38

Spring100

Summer100

Fall50

Winter50

Day100

Night79

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men79

Unisex8

Women13

Men100

Unisex0

Women0

Casual 33%Party 30%Date 23%Work 13%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#16,939

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews6

Overall rank#57,513

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews1

Category winnerBlackHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Black by Max Philip is a fruity chypre with clear Aventus-inspired territory, opening on pineapple, citrus and black currant before moving into birch smoke, patchouli, florals and a musky base. It can feel bright and fairly loud early on, then settles into a drier, floral-musky wear that may suit men who want this sty…

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Prime Joyful by LELAS hits the skin with a loud burst of tart black currant, crisp green apple, and zesty bergamot. It makes an immediate impression. The pineapple note takes center stage within seconds, sweetened well beyond typical smoky clones. As the initial citrus lift softens, dry birch wood and damp patchouli p…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black or Prime Joyful?

Prime Joyful takes 3 of 4 categories. Black is rated 3.62/5 from 29 votes; Prime Joyful is rated 3.60/5 from 5 votes. Choose Black for a fruity and musky character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose Prime Joyful for a fruity and woody character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Black or Prime Joyful?

Prime Joyful lasts longest (Prime Joyful 80/100, Black 65/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black or Prime Joyful?

Prime Joyful projects furthest (Prime Joyful 67/100, Black 55/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black and Prime Joyful smell similar?

Closely related: a 73% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share fruity, woody and citrus accords. Common notes include Black Currant, Bergamot, Pineapple and Apple.

Is Black or Prime Joyful better for summer or winter?

Black suits daytime wear; Prime Joyful suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black and Prime Joyful?

Black has top notes of Black Currant, Bergamot, Pineapple and Apple, heart notes of Birch, Patchouli, Moroccan Jasmine and Rose, a base of Musk, Oakmoss, Ambergris and Vanilla. Prime Joyful has top notes of Black Currant, Bergamot, Apple and Pineapple, heart notes of Patchouli, Rose, Birch and Moroccan Jasmine, a base of Vanilla, Oakmoss, Musk and Ambergris.