Black Forest Elixir vs Panthere
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
19%scent match
Clearly different
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2.
Black Forest ElixirChoose it for a citrus and musky character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.
PanthereChoose it for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in fall, evening wear.
Black Forest Elixir2/4
Panthere2/4
- Ratings & consensus
- Not scored
- Community sentiment
- Not scored
- Longevity
- Panthere
- Sillage & projection
- Panthere
- Value for money
- Black Forest Elixir
- Versatility
- Not scored
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Black Forest Elixir
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Black Forest ElixirAl AmbraPanthereJohn Mac SteedWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split4.24/ 5 · 53 votes
Have 20%Had 5%Want 74%
4.33/ 5 · 3 votes
Have 22%Had 15%Want 63%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate44%Love
50%Like
6%Ok
0%Dislike
0%Hate
16 votes · too few to score
33%Love
67%Like
0%Ok
0%Dislike
0%Hate
3 votes · too few to score
Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityPanthere
SillagePanthere
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerBlack Forest ElixirBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothcitrus100%
musky92%
aldehydic84%
white floral77%
woody69%
fresh61%
woody100%
green92%
balsamic84%
warm spicy77%
amber69%
patchouli61%
Scent match19%Clearly different · both woody
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop
AldehydesMandarin OrangeWhite PeachBergamot
Heart
Orange BlossomLily-of-the-ValleyAmbretteVetiverMahonia
Base
AmbroxanVanillaMuskAkigalawoodPatchouli
Top20-30 mins
AldehydesGalbanumHyacinthMandarin OrangeOrangeMarigoldBlack Currant
Heart2-4 hrs
Orris RootJasmineLily-of-the-ValleyNarcissusOrange BlossomRoseRosemary
Base8-12 hrs
IncensePatchouliOakSandalwoodVetiverCedar
InformationalShared notesAldehydes, Mandarin Orange, Orange Blossom and Lily-of-the-Valley. Durations are only published for Panthere, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring100
Summer100
Fall100
Winter25
Day100
Night57
Spring33
Summer33
Fall100
Winter67
Day67
Night100
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#6,056
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews19
Overall rank#57,181
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews0
Category winnerBlack Forest ElixirHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotBlack Forest Elixir is a bright, clean aldehydic floral musk with a juicy peach and citrus lift. It opens sparkly and soapy-fresh, then settles into orange blossom and soft white florals over musky ambroxan, with a touch of vanilla and woods. It is often described as polished and airy, but it can lean more feminine on…
Reviews →Panthere by John Mac Steed opens with an aggressive burst of soapy aldehydes and bitter galbanum. It bites hard. Sharp hyacinth and tart black currant cut through the initial haze before plush jasmine and powdery orris root take over the heart. Give it thirty minutes. The drydown drops into a dense thicket of smoky in…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Black Forest Elixir or Panthere?
No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2. Black Forest Elixir is rated 4.24/5 from 53 votes; Panthere is rated 4.33/5 from 3 votes. Choose Black Forest Elixir for a citrus and musky character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose Panthere for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in fall, evening wear.
Which lasts longer, Black Forest Elixir or Panthere?
Panthere lasts longest (Panthere 90/100, Black Forest Elixir 84/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Black Forest Elixir or Panthere?
Panthere projects furthest (Panthere 83/100, Black Forest Elixir 76/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Black Forest Elixir and Panthere smell similar?
Clearly different: a 19% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody accords. Common notes include Aldehydes, Mandarin Orange, Orange Blossom and Lily-of-the-Valley.
Is Black Forest Elixir or Panthere better for summer or winter?
Black Forest Elixir suits daytime wear; Panthere suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Black Forest Elixir and Panthere?
Black Forest Elixir has top notes of Aldehydes, Mandarin Orange, White Peach and Bergamot, heart notes of Orange Blossom, Lily-of-the-Valley, Ambrette and Vetiver, a base of Ambroxan, Vanilla, Musk and Akigalawood. Panthere has top notes of Aldehydes, Galbanum, Hyacinth and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Orris Root, Jasmine, Lily-of-the-Valley and Narcissus, a base of Incense, Patchouli, Oak and Sandalwood.
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