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Black Leather vs Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 107 ratings analysed
Clearly different
Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

No clear winner: the 2 categories split 1–1.

  • Black Leather

    Choose it for a leather and mossy character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.

  • Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23

    Choose it for a woody and white floral character. Wins on sillage & projection. Best in spring, evening wear.

Black Leather1/2
Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 231/2
Ratings & consensus
Not scored
Community sentiment
Not scored
Longevity
Not scored
Sillage & projection
Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23
Value for money
Not scored
Versatility
Not scored
Note pyramid (duration)
Not scored
Fragranxe ranking
Black Leather

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance
Black LeatherJ-Scent
Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23Roja Dove
Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split
3.73/ 5 · 98 votes
Have 39%Had 6%Want 55%
4.44/ 5 · 9 votes
Have 25%Had 0%Want 75%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate
27%Love
42%Like
16%Ok
9%Dislike
6%Hate

98 votes

67%Love
22%Like
0%Ok
11%Dislike
0%Hate

9 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores
⏱ Longevity61
〰 Sillage45
♥ Love / hate68
⏱ LongevityN/A
〰 Sillage75
♥ Love / hate86
Category winners

LongevityNo data

SillagePierre de Velay Extrait No. 23

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it
¤ Price value67
¤ Price valueN/A
Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both
leather100%
mossy92%
animalic84%
tobacco77%
earthy69%
white floral61%
woody100%
white floral92%
citrus84%
amber77%
powdery69%
animalic61%
Scent match26%Clearly different · both white floral and animalic

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared
Notes
LeatherOakmossTobaccoJasmineMuskAmberBergamotVanilla

No top / heart / base split published

Top
Mandarin OrangeAldehydesBergamotOrange Blossom
Heart
JasmineClovesRoseYlang-YlangViolet
Base
SandalwoodBenzoinCedarVetiverOakmossTobaccoLeatherCivet
InformationalShared notesLeather, Oakmoss, Tobacco and Jasmine. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season
Spring65
Summer0
Fall0
Winter100
Day–
Night–
Spring100
Summer0
Fall100
Winter100
Day–
Night100
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes
Men40
Unisex60
Women0

Not enough votes yet

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#14,351

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews18

Overall rank#35,899

PerfumerRoja Dove

Launched—

Reviews1

Category winnerBlack LeatherHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Black Leather opens with a sharp burst of bergamot and dry pipe tobacco before settling into a damp oakmoss base. Soft vanilla and white jasmine tame the raw tannic leather, keeping the scent smooth rather than aggressive on skin. Designed for cold crisp days, it suits casual evening wear or quiet indoor settings whe…

Reviews →

Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 reads as an old-school floral chypre with a bright citrus and aldehydic lift, then settles into a warmer, more sensual mix of white florals, oakmoss, woods, leather, and soft sweetness. It feels polished, vintage-leaning, and quite dressed up, especially if you enjoy rich florals with a …

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black Leather or Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23?

No clear winner: the 2 categories split 1–1. Black Leather is rated 3.73/5 from 98 votes; Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 is rated 4.44/5 from 9 votes. Choose Black Leather for a leather and mossy character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter. Choose Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 for a woody and white floral character. Wins on sillage & projection. Best in spring, evening wear.

Which projects more, Black Leather or Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23?

Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 projects furthest (Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 75/100, Black Leather 45/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black Leather and Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 smell similar?

Clearly different: a 26% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share white floral and animalic accords. Common notes include Leather, Oakmoss, Tobacco and Jasmine.

Is Black Leather or Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 better for summer or winter?

Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black Leather and Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23?

Black Leather features Leather, Oakmoss, Tobacco, Jasmine and Musk. Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 has top notes of Mandarin Orange, Aldehydes, Bergamot and Orange Blossom, heart notes of Jasmine, Cloves, Rose and Ylang-Ylang, a base of Sandalwood, Benzoin, Cedar and Vetiver.

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