Fragrance comparison

Black Leather vs Pierre de Velay No. 23

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 21 Oct 2026 136 ratings analysed

Black Leather

J-Scent

3.7398 votes

Rank #14,351 LeatherMossy

Full profile Similar & dupes

30%scent match

Clearly different

5 wins

Pierre de Velay No. 23

Roja Dove

4.1138 votes

Rank #15,147 AmberWoody

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 takes 5 of 7 categories.

Black Leather
Choose it for a leather and mossy character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.
Pierre de Velay No. 23
Choose it for a amber and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in spring, evening wear.

Black Leather2/7

Pierre de Velay No. 235/7

Ratings & consensus: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Community sentiment: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Longevity: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Sillage & projection: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Value for money: Black Leather
Versatility: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Black Leather

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Black LeatherJ-Scent

Pierre de Velay No. 23Roja Dove

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.73/ 5 · 98 votes

Have 39%Had 6%Want 55%

4.11/ 5 · 38 votes

Have 35%Had 11%Want 54%

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Rating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

27%Love

42%Like

16%Ok

9%Dislike

6%Hate

98 votes

53%Love

24%Like

8%Ok

13%Dislike

3%Hate

38 votes

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Most positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity61

〰 Sillage45

♥ Love / hate68

⏱ Longevity75

〰 Sillage61

♥ Love / hate78

Category winners

LongevityPierre de Velay No. 23

SillagePierre de Velay No. 23

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value67

¤ Price value38

Category winnerBlack LeatherBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

leather100%

mossy92%

animalic84%

tobacco77%

earthy69%

white floral61%

amber100%

woody92%

animalic84%

musky77%

powdery69%

white floral61%

Scent match30%Clearly different · both animalic and white floral

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Notes

LeatherOakmossTobaccoJasmineMuskAmberBergamotVanilla

No top / heart / base split published

Top

AldehydesBergamotMandarin Orange

Heart

Ylang-YlangJasmineVioletRose de MaiOrange Blossom

Base

AmbergrisCivetLabdanumLeatherMuskCedarOakmossTobacco

InformationalShared notesLeather, Oakmoss, Tobacco and Jasmine. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring65

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Spring100

Summer31

Fall100

Winter77

Day83

Night100

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Most year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men40

Unisex60

Women0

Men11

Unisex68

Women21

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#14,351

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews18

Overall rank#15,147

PerfumerRoja Dove

Launched—

Reviews8

Category winnerBlack LeatherHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Black Leather opens with a sharp burst of bergamot and dry pipe tobacco before settling into a damp oakmoss base. Soft vanilla and white jasmine tame the raw tannic leather, keeping the scent smooth rather than aggressive on skin. Designed for cold crisp days, it suits casual evening wear or quiet indoor settings whe…

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Pierre de Velay No. 23 opens with bright aldehydes and soft citrus, then quickly settles into a powdery floral heart of ylang-ylang, jasmine, violet, rose and orange blossom. The real twist is underneath, where amber, leather, tobacco and animalic notes give it a darker, more intimate edge. It suits someone who enjoys…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black Leather or Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 takes 5 of 7 categories. Black Leather is rated 3.73/5 from 98 votes; Pierre de Velay No. 23 is rated 4.11/5 from 38 votes. Choose Black Leather for a leather and mossy character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter. Choose Pierre de Velay No. 23 for a amber and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in spring, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, Black Leather or Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 lasts longest (Pierre de Velay No. 23 75/100, Black Leather 61/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black Leather or Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 projects furthest (Pierre de Velay No. 23 61/100, Black Leather 45/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black Leather and Pierre de Velay No. 23 smell similar?

Clearly different: a 30% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share animalic and white floral accords. Common notes include Leather, Oakmoss, Tobacco and Jasmine.

Is Black Leather or Pierre de Velay No. 23 better for summer or winter?

For summer, Pierre de Velay No. 23 is the stronger pick. For winter, Black Leather is the stronger pick. Pierre de Velay No. 23 suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black Leather and Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Black Leather features Leather, Oakmoss, Tobacco, Jasmine and Musk. Pierre de Velay No. 23 has top notes of Aldehydes, Bergamot and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Ylang-Ylang, Jasmine, Violet and Rose de Mai, a base of Ambergris, Civet, Labdanum and Leather.