Black Suede vs Noir
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
52%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Noir takes 5 of 7 categories.
Black SuedeChoose it for a musky and amber character. Wins on value for money and versatility. Best in winter.
NoirChoose it for a amber and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in winter.
Black Suede2/7
Noir5/7
- Ratings & consensus
- Noir
- Community sentiment
- Noir
- Longevity
- Noir
- Sillage & projection
- Noir
- Value for money
- Black Suede
- Versatility
- Black Suede
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Noir
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Black SuedeAvonNoirTom FordWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split3.88/ 5 · 560 votes
Have 63%Had 37%Want 0%
4.06/ 5 · 4,336 votes
Have 76%Had 24%Want 0%
Category winnerNoirRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate26%Love
51%Like
8%Ok
12%Dislike
2%Hate
560 votes
43%Love
37%Like
6%Ok
13%Dislike
2%Hate
4,336 votes
Category winnerNoirMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityNoir
SillageNoir
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerBlack SuedeBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothmusky100%
amber92%
powdery84%
woody77%
warm spicy69%
fresh spicy61%
amber100%
powdery92%
fresh spicy84%
woody77%
violet69%
patchouli61%
Scent match52%Some overlap · both amber, powdery and woody
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop
NutmegAldehydesCarnationCorianderGreen NotesBergamot
Heart
CloveOrrisLeatherVetiverRoseLavenderHeliotropeThyme
Base
MuskAmberWoodsy NotesOakmossCivetSuedeOpoponaxAnise
Top
VioletPink PepperCarawayBergamotVerbena
Heart
Tuscan IrisBulgarian RoseBlack PepperNutmegGeraniumClary Sage
Base
Indonesian Patchouli LeafAmberVanillaLeatherCivetOpoponaxBenzoinVetiver
InformationalShared notesNutmeg, Bergamot, Leather and Vetiver. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring42
Summer25
Fall0
Winter100
Day–
Night–
Spring38
Summer13
Fall0
Winter100
Day–
Night–
Category winnerBlack SuedeMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#27,904
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews0
Overall rank#26,627
PerfumerOlivier Gillotin
Launched—
Reviews0
Category winnerNoirHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotAvon Black Suede opens with a sharp burst of soapy aldehydes, spicy nutmeg, and crisp carnation. Within fifteen minutes, the initial brightness settles into a darker heart of warm clove, aromatic lavender, and herbal thyme. The dry down hugs the skin with powdery amber, mossy oakmoss, and soft suede musk. It sits warm…
Reviews →Tom Ford Noir opens with a clean, sharp burst of bergamot and verbena, but this bright start quickly fades as a heavy blanket of powdery violet and caraway seeds takes over. On the skin, the fragrance warms up and shifts from a fresh, spicy herbal blend into a dense, dark floral heart dominated by Tuscan iris and Bulg…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Black Suede or Noir?
Noir takes 5 of 7 categories. Black Suede is rated 3.88/5 from 560 votes; Noir is rated 4.06/5 from 4,336 votes. Choose Black Suede for a musky and amber character. Wins on value for money and versatility. Best in winter. Choose Noir for a amber and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in winter.
Which lasts longer, Black Suede or Noir?
Noir lasts longest (Noir 71/100, Black Suede 62/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Black Suede or Noir?
Noir projects furthest (Noir 59/100, Black Suede 55/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Black Suede and Noir smell similar?
Some overlap: a 52% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share amber, powdery and woody accords. Common notes include Nutmeg, Bergamot, Leather and Vetiver.
Is Black Suede or Noir better for summer or winter?
For summer, Black Suede is the stronger pick. For winter, Black Suede is the stronger pick. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Black Suede and Noir?
Black Suede has top notes of Nutmeg, Aldehydes, Carnation and Coriander, heart notes of Clove, Orris, Leather and Vetiver, a base of Musk, Amber, Woodsy Notes and Oakmoss. Noir has top notes of Violet, Pink Pepper, Caraway and Bergamot, heart notes of Tuscan Iris, Bulgarian Rose, Black Pepper and Nutmeg, a base of Indonesian Patchouli Leaf, Amber, Vanilla and Leather.
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