Fragrance comparison

Black Suede Essential vs The Black Carnation

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 11 Oct 2026 155 ratings analysed

Black Suede Essential

Avon

3.76110 votes

Rank #32,421 LavenderCitrus

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8%scent match

Clearly different

5 wins

The Black Carnation

Thameen

3.8745 votes

Rank #11,248 WoodyPowdery

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

The Black Carnation takes 5 of 7 categories.

Black Suede Essential
Choose it for a lavender and citrus character. Wins on community sentiment and versatility. Best in fall, evening wear.
The Black Carnation
Choose it for a woody and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in fall, daytime wear.

Black Suede Essential2/7

The Black Carnation5/7

Ratings & consensus: The Black Carnation
Community sentiment: Black Suede Essential
Longevity: The Black Carnation
Sillage & projection: The Black Carnation
Value for money: The Black Carnation
Versatility: Black Suede Essential
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: The Black Carnation

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Black Suede EssentialAvon

The Black CarnationThameen

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.76/ 5 · 110 votes

Have 56%Had 27%Want 17%

3.87/ 5 · 45 votes

Have 11%Had 5%Want 84%

Category winnerThe Black CarnationRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

17%Love

57%Like

10%Ok

15%Dislike

0%Hate

110 votes

62%Love

15%Like

3%Ok

10%Dislike

10%Hate

39 votes

Category winnerBlack Suede EssentialMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity47

〰 Sillage42

♥ Love / hate69

⏱ Longevity83

〰 Sillage75

♥ Love / hate77

Category winners

LongevityThe Black Carnation

SillageThe Black Carnation

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value76

¤ Price value83

Category winnerThe Black CarnationBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family

lavender100%

citrus90%

leather80%

aromatic70%

musky60%

fresh spicy50%

woody100%

powdery92%

warm spicy84%

vanilla77%

floral69%

yellow floral61%

Scent match8%Clearly different

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Mandarin Orange

Heart

Wild Lavender

Base

Suede

Top

PistachioMandarin OrangeBergamot

Heart

CarnationYlang-YlangJasmine

Base

VanillaSandalwoodSuede

InformationalShared notesMandarin Orange and Suede. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring75

Summer73

Fall100

Winter58

Day92

Night100

Spring71

Summer0

Fall100

Winter43

Day100

Night33

Category winnerBlack Suede EssentialMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men81

Unisex19

Women0

Men9

Unisex55

Women36

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#32,421

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#11,248

PerfumerAlexandra Carlin

Launched—

Reviews7

Category winnerThe Black CarnationHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Avon Black Suede Essential opens with a sharp burst of mandarin orange before settling into aromatic wild lavender and a soft suede base. The scent feels clean and simple, keeping a light citrus sparkle over a calm herbal core. As the top notes fade, the suede accord creates a quiet leather texture that stays close to…

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The Black Carnation by Thameen is a Floral fragrance for women and men. This is a new fragrance. The Black Carnation was launched in 2024. The nose behind this fragrance is Alexandra Carlin. Top notes are Pistachio, Mandarin Orange and Bergamot; middle notes are Carnation, Ylang-Ylang and Jasmine; base notes are Vanil…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black Suede Essential or The Black Carnation?

The Black Carnation takes 5 of 7 categories. Black Suede Essential is rated 3.76/5 from 110 votes; The Black Carnation is rated 3.87/5 from 45 votes. Choose Black Suede Essential for a lavender and citrus character. Wins on community sentiment and versatility. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose The Black Carnation for a woody and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in fall, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Black Suede Essential or The Black Carnation?

The Black Carnation lasts longest (The Black Carnation 83/100, Black Suede Essential 47/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black Suede Essential or The Black Carnation?

The Black Carnation projects furthest (The Black Carnation 75/100, Black Suede Essential 42/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black Suede Essential and The Black Carnation smell similar?

Clearly different: a 8% scent match on Fragranxe. They share few main accords. Common notes include Mandarin Orange and Suede.

Is Black Suede Essential or The Black Carnation better for summer or winter?

For summer, Black Suede Essential is the stronger pick. For winter, Black Suede Essential is the stronger pick. Black Suede Essential suits evening wear; The Black Carnation suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black Suede Essential and The Black Carnation?

Black Suede Essential has top notes of Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Wild Lavender, a base of Suede. The Black Carnation has top notes of Pistachio, Mandarin Orange and Bergamot, heart notes of Carnation, Ylang-Ylang and Jasmine, a base of Vanilla, Sandalwood and Suede.