Fragrance comparison

Black Suede Ultimate vs Ambre et Cuir

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 11 Oct 2026 10 ratings analysed

Black Suede Ultimate

Avon

3.605 votes

Rank #58,109 LavenderAromatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

42%scent match

Some overlap

3 wins

Ambre et Cuir

Sauzé

4.805 votes

Rank #39,228 CitrusWhite Floral

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Ambre et Cuir takes 3 of 4 categories.

Black Suede Ultimate
Choose it for a lavender and aromatic character. Wins on value for money. Best in spring, evening wear.
Ambre et Cuir
Choose it for a citrus and white floral character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Black Suede Ultimate1/4

Ambre et Cuir3/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Ambre et Cuir
Sillage & projection: Ambre et Cuir
Value for money: Black Suede Ultimate
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Ambre et Cuir

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Black Suede UltimateAvon

Ambre et CuirSauzé

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.60/ 5 · 5 votes

Have 43%Had 17%Want 39%

4.80/ 5 · 5 votes

Have 14%Had 7%Want 79%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

60%Love

0%Like

0%Ok

20%Dislike

20%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

80%Love

20%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity50

〰 Sillage35

♥ Love / hate65

⏱ Longevity60

〰 Sillage50

♥ Love / hate95

Category winners

LongevityAmbre et Cuir

SillageAmbre et Cuir

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value75

¤ Price value25

Category winnerBlack Suede UltimateBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

lavender100%

aromatic88%

citrus77%

vanilla65%

amber53%

sweet42%

citrus100%

white floral92%

amber84%

aromatic77%

powdery69%

woody61%

Scent match42%Some overlap · both citrus, aromatic and amber

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Lavender

Heart

Lemon

Base

Tonka Bean

Top

LemonBergamotLavenderNeroli

Heart

AmberOrange BlossomJasmineOrris Root

Base

Tonka BeanBenzoinCedarMusk

InformationalShared notesLavender, Lemon and Tonka Bean. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer50

Fall100

Winter100

Day75

Night100

Spring100

Summer50

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night50

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men80

Unisex20

Women0

Men25

Unisex75

Women0

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#58,109

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#39,228

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerAmbre et CuirHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Avon Black Suede Ultimate strips back the heavy, powdery leather of the original 1980 release in favor of a clean, modern aromatic build. It opens with sharp lavender and bright lemon, giving the scent a crisp bar-soap cleanliness right out of the atomizer. As the initial sharpness relaxes, warm tonka bean settles und…

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Ambre et Cuir by Sauzé wears like a bright citrus and neroli opening that quickly turns into a soft amber floral with a powdery, iris-like haze. The base leans cosy and slightly sweet, with tonka and benzoin over clean musk and dry cedar. Despite the name, it often reads smoother and more polished than rugged leather…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black Suede Ultimate or Ambre et Cuir?

Ambre et Cuir takes 3 of 4 categories. Black Suede Ultimate is rated 3.60/5 from 5 votes; Ambre et Cuir is rated 4.80/5 from 5 votes. Choose Black Suede Ultimate for a lavender and aromatic character. Wins on value for money. Best in spring, evening wear. Choose Ambre et Cuir for a citrus and white floral character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Black Suede Ultimate or Ambre et Cuir?

Ambre et Cuir lasts longest (Ambre et Cuir 60/100, Black Suede Ultimate 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black Suede Ultimate or Ambre et Cuir?

Ambre et Cuir projects furthest (Ambre et Cuir 50/100, Black Suede Ultimate 35/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black Suede Ultimate and Ambre et Cuir smell similar?

Some overlap: a 42% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share citrus, aromatic and amber accords. Common notes include Lavender, Lemon and Tonka Bean.

Is Black Suede Ultimate or Ambre et Cuir better for summer or winter?

Black Suede Ultimate suits evening wear; Ambre et Cuir suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black Suede Ultimate and Ambre et Cuir?

Black Suede Ultimate has top notes of Lavender, heart notes of Lemon, a base of Tonka Bean. Ambre et Cuir has top notes of Lemon, Bergamot, Lavender and Neroli, heart notes of Amber, Orange Blossom, Jasmine and Orris Root, a base of Tonka Bean, Benzoin, Cedar and Musk.