Fragrance comparison

Black Suede Ultimate vs Artémios Rosso

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 11 Oct 2026 6 ratings analysed

Black Suede Ultimate

Avon

3.605 votes

Rank #58,109 LavenderAromatic

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60%scent match

Closely related

2 wins

Artémios Rosso

Artemios

4.001 votes

Rank #58,172 SweetCitrus

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Artémios Rosso takes 2 of 3 categories.

Black Suede Ultimate
Choose it for a lavender and aromatic character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, evening wear.
Artémios Rosso
Choose it for a sweet and citrus character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection.

Black Suede Ultimate1/3

Artémios Rosso2/3

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Artémios Rosso
Sillage & projection: Artémios Rosso
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Black Suede Ultimate

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Black Suede UltimateAvon

Artémios RossoArtemios

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.60/ 5 · 5 votes

Have 43%Had 17%Want 39%

4.00/ 5 · 1 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

60%Love

0%Like

0%Ok

20%Dislike

20%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

0%Love

100%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

1 vote · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity50

〰 Sillage35

♥ Love / hate65

⏱ Longevity60

〰 Sillage50

♥ Love / hate75

Category winners

LongevityArtémios Rosso

SillageArtémios Rosso

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value75

¤ Price valueN/A

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

lavender100%

aromatic88%

citrus77%

vanilla65%

amber53%

sweet42%

sweet100%

citrus92%

honey84%

vanilla77%

lavender69%

aromatic61%

Scent match60%Closely related · both lavender, citrus and aromatic

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Lavender

Heart

Lemon

Base

Tonka Bean

Top

LavenderBergamotLemon

Heart

HoneyJasmine SambacCashmeranCinnamon

Base

Tobacco LeafTonka BeanVanilla

InformationalShared notesLavender, Lemon and Tonka Bean. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer50

Fall100

Winter100

Day75

Night100

No season votes yet

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men80

Unisex20

Women0

Men0

Unisex100

Women0

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#58,109

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#58,172

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerBlack Suede UltimateHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Avon Black Suede Ultimate strips back the heavy, powdery leather of the original 1980 release in favor of a clean, modern aromatic build. It opens with sharp lavender and bright lemon, giving the scent a crisp bar-soap cleanliness right out of the atomizer. As the initial sharpness relaxes, warm tonka bean settles und…

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Artémios Rosso opens with a bright citrus lift of bergamot and lemon, softened by aromatic lavender before the sweeter side comes forward. Honey, cinnamon and cashmeran give it a warm, textured heart, while tobacco leaf, tonka and vanilla leave a smooth gourmand trail. It reads as a sweet citrus scent with a cosy, sli…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black Suede Ultimate or Artémios Rosso?

Artémios Rosso takes 2 of 3 categories. Black Suede Ultimate is rated 3.60/5 from 5 votes; Artémios Rosso is rated 4.00/5 from 1 votes. Choose Black Suede Ultimate for a lavender and aromatic character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, evening wear. Choose Artémios Rosso for a sweet and citrus character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection.

Which lasts longer, Black Suede Ultimate or Artémios Rosso?

Artémios Rosso lasts longest (Artémios Rosso 60/100, Black Suede Ultimate 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black Suede Ultimate or Artémios Rosso?

Artémios Rosso projects furthest (Artémios Rosso 50/100, Black Suede Ultimate 35/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black Suede Ultimate and Artémios Rosso smell similar?

Closely related: a 60% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share lavender, citrus and aromatic accords. Common notes include Lavender, Lemon and Tonka Bean.

Is Black Suede Ultimate or Artémios Rosso better for summer or winter?

Black Suede Ultimate suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black Suede Ultimate and Artémios Rosso?

Black Suede Ultimate has top notes of Lavender, heart notes of Lemon, a base of Tonka Bean. Artémios Rosso has top notes of Lavender, Bergamot and Lemon, heart notes of Honey, Jasmine Sambac, Cashmeran and Cinnamon, a base of Tobacco Leaf, Tonka Bean and Vanilla.