Fragrance comparison

Black Suede Ultimate vs Chapter II

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 11 Oct 2026 23 ratings analysed

Black Suede Ultimate

Avon

3.605 votes

Rank #58,109 LavenderAromatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

66%scent match

Closely related

3 wins

Chapter II

King of Kings

4.8318 votes

Rank #25,970 VanillaTobacco

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Chapter II takes 3 of 4 categories.

Black Suede Ultimate
Choose it for a lavender and aromatic character. Best in spring, evening wear.
Chapter II
Choose it for a vanilla and tobacco character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, evening wear.

Black Suede Ultimate0/4

Chapter II3/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Chapter II
Sillage & projection: Chapter II
Value for money: Tie
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Chapter II

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Black Suede UltimateAvon

Chapter IIKing of Kings

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.60/ 5 · 5 votes

Have 43%Had 17%Want 39%

4.83/ 5 · 18 votes

Have 24%Had 2%Want 74%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

60%Love

0%Like

0%Ok

20%Dislike

20%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

83%Love

17%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

18 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity50

〰 Sillage35

♥ Love / hate65

⏱ Longevity75

〰 Sillage70

♥ Love / hate96

Category winners

LongevityChapter II

SillageChapter II

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value75

Category winnerTieBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

lavender100%

aromatic88%

citrus77%

vanilla65%

amber53%

sweet42%

vanilla100%

tobacco90%

sweet80%

lavender70%

aromatic60%

citrus50%

Scent match66%Closely related · both lavender, vanilla and aromatic

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Lavender

Heart

Lemon

Base

Tonka Bean

Top

LavenderBergamotLemon

Heart

Tobacco Leaf

Base

Tonka BeanVanilla

InformationalShared notesLavender, Lemon and Tonka Bean. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer50

Fall100

Winter100

Day75

Night100

Spring58

Summer25

Fall58

Winter100

Day50

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men80

Unisex20

Women0

Men62

Unisex38

Women0

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#58,109

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#25,970

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews3

Category winnerChapter IIHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Avon Black Suede Ultimate strips back the heavy, powdery leather of the original 1980 release in favor of a clean, modern aromatic build. It opens with sharp lavender and bright lemon, giving the scent a crisp bar-soap cleanliness right out of the atomizer. As the initial sharpness relaxes, warm tonka bean settles und…

Reviews →

Chapter II is a sweet aromatic tobacco fragrance with bright bergamot and lemon over lavender, then a warm tonka and vanilla base. Wearers most often compare it to Xerjoff Naxos, especially for its juicy citrus, powdered lavender, sweet pipe-tobacco feel, and strong trail. It suits someone who wants a noticeable, gour…

Reviews →

InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black Suede Ultimate or Chapter II?

Chapter II takes 3 of 4 categories. Black Suede Ultimate is rated 3.60/5 from 5 votes; Chapter II is rated 4.83/5 from 18 votes. Choose Black Suede Ultimate for a lavender and aromatic character. Best in spring, evening wear. Choose Chapter II for a vanilla and tobacco character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, Black Suede Ultimate or Chapter II?

Chapter II lasts longest (Chapter II 75/100, Black Suede Ultimate 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black Suede Ultimate or Chapter II?

Chapter II projects furthest (Chapter II 70/100, Black Suede Ultimate 35/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black Suede Ultimate and Chapter II smell similar?

Closely related: a 66% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share lavender, vanilla and aromatic accords. Common notes include Lavender, Lemon and Tonka Bean.

Is Black Suede Ultimate or Chapter II better for summer or winter?

Black Suede Ultimate suits evening wear; Chapter II suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black Suede Ultimate and Chapter II?

Black Suede Ultimate has top notes of Lavender, heart notes of Lemon, a base of Tonka Bean. Chapter II has top notes of Lavender, Bergamot and Lemon, heart notes of Tobacco Leaf, a base of Tonka Bean and Vanilla.