Fragrance comparison

Black Suede Ultimate vs Venezia

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 11 Oct 2026 39 ratings analysed

Black Suede Ultimate

Avon

3.605 votes

Rank #58,109 LavenderAromatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

36%scent match

Some overlap

4 wins

Venezia

New Brand Parfums

4.2934 votes

Rank #9,982 AromaticGreen

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Venezia takes 4 of 4 categories.

Black Suede Ultimate
Choose it for a lavender and aromatic character. Best in spring, evening wear.
Venezia
Choose it for a aromatic and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in fall, daytime wear.

Black Suede Ultimate0/4

Venezia4/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Venezia
Sillage & projection: Venezia
Value for money: Venezia
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Venezia

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Black Suede UltimateAvon

VeneziaNew Brand Parfums

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.60/ 5 · 5 votes

Have 43%Had 17%Want 39%

4.29/ 5 · 34 votes

Have 37%Had 10%Want 53%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

60%Love

0%Like

0%Ok

20%Dislike

20%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

50%Love

35%Like

9%Ok

6%Dislike

0%Hate

34 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity50

〰 Sillage35

♥ Love / hate65

⏱ Longevity63

〰 Sillage51

♥ Love / hate82

Category winners

LongevityVenezia

SillageVenezia

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value75

¤ Price value89

Category winnerVeneziaBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

lavender100%

aromatic88%

citrus77%

vanilla65%

amber53%

sweet42%

aromatic100%

green86%

fresh spicy72%

citrus58%

woody44%

herbal30%

Scent match36%Some overlap · both aromatic and citrus

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Lavender

Heart

Lemon

Base

Tonka Bean

Top

Green NotesJuniper BerriesLavender

Heart

LemonGalbanumBergamotTarragonArtemisiaPetitgrain

Base

Pine Tree NeedlesBasilTonka Bean

InformationalShared notesLavender, Lemon and Tonka Bean. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer50

Fall100

Winter100

Day75

Night100

Spring89

Summer44

Fall100

Winter33

Day100

Night41

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men80

Unisex20

Women0

Men95

Unisex0

Women5

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#58,109

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#9,982

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews16

Category winnerVeneziaHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Avon Black Suede Ultimate strips back the heavy, powdery leather of the original 1980 release in favor of a clean, modern aromatic build. It opens with sharp lavender and bright lemon, giving the scent a crisp bar-soap cleanliness right out of the atomizer. As the initial sharpness relaxes, warm tonka bean settles und…

Reviews →

Venezia is a green, aromatic fougere that opens with lemon, lavender and sharp herbal freshness, then settles into a soapy, slightly sweet barbershop style. Pine needles and tonka keep it airy rather than heavy. It suits shoppers who like classic masculine structure without dense leather, moss or tobacco. Reviews sugg…

Reviews →

InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black Suede Ultimate or Venezia?

Venezia takes 4 of 4 categories. Black Suede Ultimate is rated 3.60/5 from 5 votes; Venezia is rated 4.29/5 from 34 votes. Choose Black Suede Ultimate for a lavender and aromatic character. Best in spring, evening wear. Choose Venezia for a aromatic and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in fall, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Black Suede Ultimate or Venezia?

Venezia lasts longest (Venezia 63/100, Black Suede Ultimate 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black Suede Ultimate or Venezia?

Venezia projects furthest (Venezia 51/100, Black Suede Ultimate 35/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black Suede Ultimate and Venezia smell similar?

Some overlap: a 36% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share aromatic and citrus accords. Common notes include Lavender, Lemon and Tonka Bean.

Is Black Suede Ultimate or Venezia better for summer or winter?

Black Suede Ultimate suits evening wear; Venezia suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black Suede Ultimate and Venezia?

Black Suede Ultimate has top notes of Lavender, heart notes of Lemon, a base of Tonka Bean. Venezia has top notes of Green Notes, Juniper Berries and Lavender, heart notes of Lemon, Galbanum, Bergamot and Tarragon, a base of Pine Tree Needles, Basil and Tonka Bean.