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Black Widow by the Fire vs Valor

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 63 ratings analysed
Some overlap
Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Valor takes 4 of 4 categories.

  • Black Widow by the Fire

    Choose it for a warm spicy and woody character. Best in winter, evening wear.

  • Valor

    Choose it for a warm spicy and woody character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter, day or night wear.

Black Widow by the Fire0/4
Valor4/4
Ratings & consensus
Not scored
Community sentiment
Not scored
Longevity
Valor
Sillage & projection
Valor
Value for money
Valor
Versatility
Not scored
Note pyramid (duration)
Not scored
Fragranxe ranking
Valor

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance
Black Widow by the FireThe Dua Brand
ValorRiggs
Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split
4.80/ 5 · 5 votes
Have 38%Had 0%Want 62%
3.38/ 5 · 58 votes
Have 22%Had 0%Want 78%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate
80%Love
20%Like
0%Ok
0%Dislike
0%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

38%Love
23%Like
0%Ok
23%Dislike
15%Hate

13 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores
⏱ Longevity76
〰 Sillage65
♥ Love / hate95
⏱ Longevity80
〰 Sillage69
♥ Love / hate65
Category winners

LongevityValor

SillageValor

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it
¤ Price value50
¤ Price value71
Category winnerValorBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both
warm spicy100%
woody92%
sweet84%
chocolate77%
rum69%
almond61%
warm spicy100%
woody92%
vanilla84%
amber77%
smoky69%
powdery61%
Scent match37%Some overlap · both warm spicy and woody

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared
Notes
Dark ChocolateRumGuaiac WoodAlmondClovesPink PepperSandalwoodVanillaCaramelOrange BlossomPeru BalsamHeliotrope

No top / heart / base split published

Top
ChestnutRoasted NutsPink PepperClove
Heart
FireBenzoinOrange Blossom
Base
VanillaGuaiac WoodCashmeran
InformationalShared notesGuaiac Wood, Pink Pepper, Vanilla and Orange Blossom. Durations are only published for Black Widow by the Fire, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season
Spring40
Summer80
Fall80
Winter100
Day–
Night100
Spring33
Summer22
Fall67
Winter100
Day100
Night100
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes
Men40
Unisex60
Women0
Men46
Unisex46
Women8
InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#43,532

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#14,671

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews17

Category winnerValorHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Black Widow by the Fire by The Dua Brand combines the dark, decadent indulgence of bitter chocolate and spiced rum with the comforting warmth of roasted chestnuts and crackling campfire smoke. Built as a high-strength Extrait de Parfum, it opens with a mouthwatering burst of cacao and sweet liquor before revealing a h…

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Valor is a smoky, spicy amber built around roasted chestnut, clove and vanilla, with a dry woody base and a soft floral lift from orange blossom. It reads warm, slightly sweet and gently powdery rather than bright or fresh. This feels best suited to cooler weather and evening wear, especially if you enjoy cozy gourman…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Recent comparisons

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Black Widow by the Fire or Valor?

Valor takes 4 of 4 categories. Black Widow by the Fire is rated 4.80/5 from 5 votes; Valor is rated 3.38/5 from 58 votes. Choose Black Widow by the Fire for a warm spicy and woody character. Best in winter, evening wear. Choose Valor for a warm spicy and woody character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter, day or night wear.

Which lasts longer, Black Widow by the Fire or Valor?

Valor lasts longest (Valor 80/100, Black Widow by the Fire 76/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black Widow by the Fire or Valor?

Valor projects furthest (Valor 69/100, Black Widow by the Fire 65/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black Widow by the Fire and Valor smell similar?

Some overlap: a 37% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share warm spicy and woody accords. Common notes include Guaiac Wood, Pink Pepper, Vanilla and Orange Blossom.

Is Black Widow by the Fire or Valor better for summer or winter?

Black Widow by the Fire suits evening wear; Valor suits day or night wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black Widow by the Fire and Valor?

Black Widow by the Fire features Dark Chocolate, Rum, Guaiac Wood, Almond and Cloves. Valor has top notes of Chestnut, Roasted Nuts, Pink Pepper and Clove, heart notes of Fire, Benzoin and Orange Blossom, a base of Vanilla, Guaiac Wood and Cashmeran.

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