Fragrance comparison

Ciel vs Quand?

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 19 Oct 2026 424 ratings analysed

Ciel

Ulric de Varens

4.18408 votes

Rank #5,464 VanillaPowdery

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29%scent match

Clearly different

Quand?

Jovoy Paris

4.1916 votes

Rank #44,882 FruitySweet

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2.

Ciel
Choose it for a vanilla and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.
Quand?
Choose it for a fruity and sweet character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Ciel2/4

Quand?2/4

Ratings & consensus: Ciel
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Quand?
Sillage & projection: Quand?
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Ciel

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

CielUlric de Varens

Quand?Jovoy Paris

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.18/ 5 · 408 votes

Have 70%Had 30%Want 0%

4.19/ 5 · 16 votes

Have 16%Had 13%Want 71%

Category winnerCielRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

44%Love

41%Like

6%Ok

8%Dislike

1%Hate

408 votes

44%Love

44%Like

0%Ok

13%Dislike

0%Hate

16 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity57

〰 Sillage50

♥ Love / hate79

⏱ Longevity70

〰 Sillage63

♥ Love / hate80

Category winners

LongevityQuand?

SillageQuand?

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value82

¤ Price valueN/A

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

vanilla100%

powdery88%

iris77%

rose65%

violet53%

amber42%

fruity100%

sweet91%

powdery83%

woody74%

floral65%

violet56%

Scent match29%Clearly different · both powdery and violet

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Notes

VanilleIrisRoseAmber

No top / heart / base split published

Top

RaspberryPlumCassisIris

Heart

VioletJasmineRosePeonyFreesia

Base

SandalwoodMuskAmberVirginia CedarVanille

InformationalShared notesVanille, Iris, Rose and Amber. Durations are only published for Ciel, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer0

Fall0

Winter98

Day100

Night79

Spring100

Summer100

Fall100

Winter50

Day100

Night–

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men1

Unisex14

Women85

Casual 46%Work 32%Date 16%Party 7%

Not enough votes yet

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#5,464

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews55

Overall rank#44,882

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerCielHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

The first puff of Ciel by Ulric de Varens brings an unmistakable cloud of cosmetic talcum powder. It hits immediately. A gentle warmth follows, led by creamy Bourbon vanilla and sweet Ispahan rose petals that soften the opening sharpness. As the scent settles on skin, powdery iris root steps forward, providing an eart…

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Quand? by Jovoy Paris offers a fruity opening dominated by plum and raspberry before softening into a powdery floral heart. The composition shifts from sweet berry brightness to a dry cedar and sandalwood base, making it a comfortable choice for casual daytime wear during the spring. It is a sweet, wood-anchored scent…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Ciel or Quand??

No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2. Ciel is rated 4.18/5 from 408 votes; Quand? is rated 4.19/5 from 16 votes. Choose Ciel for a vanilla and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose Quand? for a fruity and sweet character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Ciel or Quand??

Quand? lasts longest (Quand? 70/100, Ciel 57/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Ciel or Quand??

Quand? projects furthest (Quand? 63/100, Ciel 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Ciel and Quand? smell similar?

Clearly different: a 29% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share powdery and violet accords. Common notes include Vanille, Iris, Rose and Amber.

Is Ciel or Quand? better for summer or winter?

Ciel suits daytime wear; Quand? suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Ciel and Quand??

Ciel features Vanille, Iris, Rose and Amber. Quand? has top notes of Raspberry, Plum, Cassis and Iris, heart notes of Violet, Jasmine, Rose and Peony, a base of Sandalwood, Musk, Amber and Virginia Cedar.