Creation 1984 vs Initiation
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
40%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Initiation takes 4 of 7 categories.
Creation 1984Choose it for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.
InitiationChoose it for a white floral and sweet character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and value for money. Best in fall, day or night wear.
Creation 19843/7
Initiation4/7
- Ratings & consensus
- Initiation
- Community sentiment
- Initiation
- Longevity
- Creation 1984
- Sillage & projection
- Creation 1984
- Value for money
- Initiation
- Versatility
- Initiation
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Creation 1984
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Creation 1984Ted LapidusInitiationMolyneuxWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split3.87/ 5 · 1,170 votes
Have 50%Had 50%Want 0%
4.23/ 5 · 75 votes
Have 38%Had 19%Want 43%
Category winnerInitiationRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate28%Love
51%Like
2%Ok
18%Dislike
1%Hate
1,170 votes
40%Love
52%Like
1%Ok
4%Dislike
3%Hate
75 votes
Category winnerInitiationMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityCreation 1984
SillageCreation 1984
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerInitiationBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothwoody100%
green92%
aromatic84%
earthy77%
white floral69%
mossy61%
white floral100%
sweet92%
woody84%
floral77%
yellow floral69%
animalic61%
Scent match40%Some overlap · both woody and white floral
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop
GalbanumMangoBlack CurrantPassionfruitPeachBergamotNeroliLemon
Heart
NarcissusCarnationTuberoseYlang-YlangOrrisGardeniaLily-of-the-ValleyJasmine
Base
OakmossVetiverSandalwoodPatchouliAmberMuskVanilla
Top
PeachGardeniaBrazilian RosewoodAldehydesMandarin OrangeBergamot
Heart
TuberoseYlang-YlangRoseNarcissusHeliotropeJasmineCarnationLily-of-the-Valley
Base
HoneyAmberCivetOakmossCoconutPatchouliVetiver
InformationalShared notesPeach, Bergamot, Narcissus and Carnation. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring84
Summer0
Fall0
Winter100
Day–
Night–
Spring47
Summer40
Fall100
Winter80
Day100
Night94
Category winnerInitiationMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#2,662
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews55
Overall rank#15,067
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews8
Category winnerCreation 1984Higher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotCreation 1984 by Ted Lapidus is a powerhouse chypre that clashes bitter galbanum with sweet mango. This vintage classic targets collectors who appreciate green oakmoss and complex, sunny floral blends. It projects a nostalgic, self-assured aura, perfect for cool spring days when you want a fragrance that cuts through …
Reviews →Initiation by Molyneux is a Oriental Floral fragrance for women. Initiation was launched in 1990. Top notes are Peach, Gardenia, Brazilian Rosewood, Aldehydes, Mandarin Orange and Bergamot; middle notes are Tuberose, Ylang-Ylang, Rose, Narcissus, Heliotrope, Jasmine, Carnation and Lily-of-the-Valley; base notes are Ho…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Creation 1984 or Initiation?
Initiation takes 4 of 7 categories. Creation 1984 is rated 3.87/5 from 1,170 votes; Initiation is rated 4.23/5 from 75 votes. Choose Creation 1984 for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter. Choose Initiation for a white floral and sweet character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and value for money. Best in fall, day or night wear.
Which lasts longer, Creation 1984 or Initiation?
Creation 1984 lasts longest (Creation 1984 80/100, Initiation 66/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Creation 1984 or Initiation?
Creation 1984 projects furthest (Creation 1984 73/100, Initiation 56/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Creation 1984 and Initiation smell similar?
Some overlap: a 40% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody and white floral accords. Common notes include Peach, Bergamot, Narcissus and Carnation.
Is Creation 1984 or Initiation better for summer or winter?
For summer, Initiation is the stronger pick. For winter, Creation 1984 is the stronger pick. Initiation suits day or night wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Creation 1984 and Initiation?
Creation 1984 has top notes of Galbanum, Mango, Black Currant and Passionfruit, heart notes of Narcissus, Carnation, Tuberose and Ylang-Ylang, a base of Oakmoss, Vetiver, Sandalwood and Patchouli. Initiation has top notes of Peach, Gardenia, Brazilian Rosewood and Aldehydes, heart notes of Tuberose, Ylang-Ylang, Rose and Narcissus, a base of Honey, Amber, Civet and Oakmoss.
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