Fragrance comparison

Creation 1984 vs Presence

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 9 Oct 2026 1,225 ratings analysed

Creation 1984

Ted Lapidus

3.871,170 votes

Rank #2,493 WoodyGreen

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46%scent match

Some overlap

Presence

Houbigant

4.1555 votes

Rank #27,761 MossyFloral

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

No clear winner: the 7 categories split 3–3.

Creation 1984
Choose it for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.
Presence
Choose it for a mossy and floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and versatility. Best in fall, daytime wear.

Creation 19843/7

Presence3/7

Ratings & consensus: Presence
Community sentiment: Presence
Longevity: Creation 1984
Sillage & projection: Creation 1984
Value for money: Tie
Versatility: Presence
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Creation 1984

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Creation 1984Ted Lapidus

PresenceHoubigant

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.87/ 5 · 1,170 votes

Have 50%Had 50%Want 0%

4.15/ 5 · 55 votes

Have 44%Had 11%Want 45%

Category winnerPresenceRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

28%Love

51%Like

2%Ok

18%Dislike

1%Hate

1,170 votes

42%Love

44%Like

2%Ok

13%Dislike

0%Hate

55 votes

Category winnerPresenceMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity80

〰 Sillage73

♥ Love / hate72

⏱ Longevity68

〰 Sillage62

♥ Love / hate79

Category winners

LongevityCreation 1984

SillageCreation 1984

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value64

Category winnerTieBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

green92%

aromatic84%

earthy77%

white floral69%

mossy61%

mossy100%

floral92%

earthy84%

woody77%

fresh69%

fruity61%

Scent match46%Some overlap · both woody, earthy and mossy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

GalbanumMangoBlack CurrantPassionfruitPeachBergamotNeroliLemon

Heart

NarcissusCarnationTuberoseYlang-YlangOrrisGardeniaLily-of-the-ValleyJasmine

Base

OakmossVetiverSandalwoodPatchouliAmberMuskVanilla

Top15-30 mins

AppleAldehydesNeroliLemonBergamot

Heart2-4 hrs

OrrisHeliotropeCarnationJasmine

Base6-8+ hrs

OakmossMuskCedarVetiverSpicesAmbergrisPatchouliSandalwood

InformationalShared notesBergamot, Neroli, Lemon and Carnation. Durations are only published for Presence, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring84

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Spring79

Summer50

Fall100

Winter71

Day100

Night64

Category winnerPresenceMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men2

Unisex29

Women69

Men7

Unisex20

Women73

Work 41%Casual 28%Date 21%Party 10%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#2,493

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews55

Overall rank#27,761

PerfumerRaymond Kling

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerCreation 1984Higher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Creation 1984 by Ted Lapidus is a powerhouse chypre that clashes bitter galbanum with sweet mango. This vintage classic targets collectors who appreciate green oakmoss and complex, sunny floral blends. It projects a nostalgic, self-assured aura, perfect for cool spring days when you want a fragrance that cuts through …

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Houbigant Presence is a crisp, historic chypre built on striking contrasts. The first spray releases a brisk wash of tart green apple, fizzy aldehydes, and sharp lemon zest. Give it ten minutes. The top burns off rapidly to reveal a velvety, dry heart of earthy orris root and spicy carnation blossoms. It smells like v…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Creation 1984 or Presence?

No clear winner: the 7 categories split 3–3. Creation 1984 is rated 3.87/5 from 1,170 votes; Presence is rated 4.15/5 from 55 votes. Choose Creation 1984 for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter. Choose Presence for a mossy and floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and versatility. Best in fall, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Creation 1984 or Presence?

Creation 1984 lasts longest (Creation 1984 80/100, Presence 68/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Creation 1984 or Presence?

Creation 1984 projects furthest (Creation 1984 73/100, Presence 62/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Creation 1984 and Presence smell similar?

Some overlap: a 46% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, earthy and mossy accords. Common notes include Bergamot, Neroli, Lemon and Carnation.

Is Creation 1984 or Presence better for summer or winter?

For summer, Presence is the stronger pick. For winter, Creation 1984 is the stronger pick. Presence suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Creation 1984 and Presence?

Creation 1984 has top notes of Galbanum, Mango, Black Currant and Passionfruit, heart notes of Narcissus, Carnation, Tuberose and Ylang-Ylang, a base of Oakmoss, Vetiver, Sandalwood and Patchouli. Presence has top notes of Apple, Aldehydes, Neroli and Lemon, heart notes of Orris, Heliotrope, Carnation and Jasmine, a base of Oakmoss, Musk, Cedar and Vetiver.