Fragrance comparison

Écrin de Fumée vs Vanille Havane

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 26 Oct 2026 3,079 ratings analysed

Écrin de Fumée

Serge Lutens

4.171,515 votes

Rank #25,026 WoodyCacao

Full profile Similar & dupes

45%scent match

Some overlap

4 wins

Vanille Havane

Les Indemodables

4.331,564 votes

Rank #1,828 SweetTobacco

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Vanille Havane takes 4 of 5 categories.

Écrin de Fumée
Choose it for a woody and cacao character. Wins on value for money. Best in winter.
Vanille Havane
Choose it for a sweet and tobacco character. Wins on ratings & consensus, longevity and sillage & projection.

Écrin de Fumée1/5

Vanille Havane4/5

Ratings & consensus: Vanille Havane
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Vanille Havane
Sillage & projection: Vanille Havane
Value for money: Écrin de Fumée
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Vanille Havane

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Écrin de FuméeSerge Lutens

Vanille HavaneLes Indemodables

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.17/ 5 · 1,515 votes

Have 83%Had 17%Want 0%

4.33/ 5 · 1,564 votes

Category winnerVanille HavaneRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

47%Love

35%Like

10%Ok

6%Dislike

2%Hate

1,515 votes

Not enough votes yet

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity71

〰 Sillage57

♥ Love / hate79

⏱ Longevity77

〰 Sillage63

♥ Love / hateN/A

Category winners

LongevityVanille Havane

SillageVanille Havane

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value50

¤ Price value36

Category winnerÉcrin de FuméeBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

cacao88%

smoky77%

tobacco65%

warm spicy53%

rum42%

sweet100%

tobacco92%

cacao84%

vanilla77%

warm spicy69%

rum61%

Scent match45%Some overlap · both cacao, tobacco and warm spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Notes

CacaoRumSmokeTobaccoWoody Notes

No top / heart / base split published

Notes

TobaccoCacaoRumVanillaDried FruitsAmberLeatherFloral Notes

No top / heart / base split published

InformationalShared notesCacao, Rum and Tobacco. Durations are only published for Vanille Havane, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring24

Summer12

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Spring–

Summer–

Fall–

Winter–

Day32

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men41

Unisex53

Women5

Men47

Unisex49

Women4

Date 39%Party 30%Casual 22%Work 9%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#25,026

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#1,828

PerfumerAntoine Lie

Launched—

Reviews202

Category winnerVanille HavaneHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Serge Lutens introduces a dark, woody mood in Écrin de Fumée. This unisex scent combines dry tobacco leaf and roasted cacao beans with a warm, rum soaked opening. It sits close to the skin on winter nights, offering a cozy but smoky shadow that suits drinkers of black coffee and lovers of dark wool coats.

Reviews →

Vanille Havane by Les Indemodables strips away the sugary, dessert-like fluff found in typical vanilla fragrances to show off the raw, intoxicating depth of whole vanilla pods. The opening hits immediately with dark rum, sticky dried fruits, and bitter cacao powder, creating an aroma like a warm drink in a wooden tave…

Reviews →

InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Écrin de Fumée or Vanille Havane?

Vanille Havane takes 4 of 5 categories. Écrin de Fumée is rated 4.17/5 from 1,515 votes; Vanille Havane is rated 4.33/5 from 1,564 votes. Choose Écrin de Fumée for a woody and cacao character. Wins on value for money. Best in winter. Choose Vanille Havane for a sweet and tobacco character. Wins on ratings & consensus, longevity and sillage & projection.