Fragrance comparison

Cuir de Russie vs Forbidden 5

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 5 Nov 2026 250 ratings analysed

Cuir de Russie

Le Jardin Retrouve

4.00250 votes

Rank #7,626 WoodyViolet

Full profile Similar & dupes

31%scent match

Clearly different

4 wins

Forbidden 5

The Dua Brand

—0 votes

Rank #79,063 WoodyCitrus

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Forbidden 5 takes 4 of 5 categories.

Cuir de Russie
Choose it for a woody and violet character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Forbidden 5
Choose it for a woody and citrus character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money.

Cuir de Russie1/5

Forbidden 54/5

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Forbidden 5
Sillage & projection: Forbidden 5
Value for money: Forbidden 5
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Forbidden 5
Fragranxe ranking: Cuir de Russie

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Cuir de RussieLe Jardin Retrouve

Forbidden 5The Dua Brand

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.00/ 5 · 250 votes

Have 31%Had 8%Want 61%

—/ 5 · 0 votes

Have 25%Had 0%Want 75%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

39%Love

35%Like

16%Ok

8%Dislike

2%Hate

250 votes

Not enough votes yet

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity60

〰 Sillage53

♥ Love / hate75

⏱ Longevity70

〰 Sillage63

♥ Love / hateN/A

Category winners

LongevityForbidden 5

SillageForbidden 5

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value49

¤ Price value75

Category winnerForbidden 5Best value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

violet92%

powdery84%

amber77%

leather69%

fresh61%

woody100%

citrus92%

fresh spicy84%

amber77%

white floral69%

aromatic61%

Scent match31%Clearly different · both woody and amber

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top30 to 45 minutes

AldehydesLimePetitgrainLemon

Heart2 to 3 hours

VioletStyraxViolet LeafYlang-YlangCedar

Base3 to 5 hours

LeatherOakmossPatchouliCade oilVetiverSandalwoodLabdanum

Notes

AldehydesOakmossOrange BlossomBlack CurrantGuaiac WoodTonka BeanHeliotropeGrapefruitPetitgrainPatchouliBergamotTuberose

No top / heart / base split published

Category winnerForbidden 5Longest dry-down: 5 to 8 hours

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring74

Summer26

Fall100

Winter81

Day100

Night74

No season votes yet

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men19

Unisex58

Women23

Men0

Unisex50

Women50

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#7,626

PerfumerYuri Gutsatz

Launched—

Reviews35

Overall rank#79,063

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerCuir de RussieHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Cuir de Russie by Le Jardin Retrouve offers an airy, vintage style that contrasts crisp citrus with soft leather and green floral notes. Created in 1977 by perfumer Yuri Gutsatz, it begins with sparkling aldehydes, lemon, lime, and tart petitgrain. Rather than presenting a heavy, smoky hide, the core focuses on powder…

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Forbidden 5 by The Dua Brand is a dense leather and oriental woody fragrance designed for men and women. The opening delivers a crisp flash of aldehydes, bright bergamot, grapefruit, and sweet orange, quickly shadowed by green galbanum and petitgrain. As the bright citrus elements settle, a lavish floral bouquet of Ma…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which lasts longer, Cuir de Russie or Forbidden 5?

Forbidden 5 lasts longest (Forbidden 5 70/100, Cuir de Russie 60/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Cuir de Russie or Forbidden 5?

Forbidden 5 projects furthest (Forbidden 5 63/100, Cuir de Russie 53/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Cuir de Russie and Forbidden 5 smell similar?

Clearly different: a 31% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody and amber accords. Common notes include Aldehydes, Petitgrain, Oakmoss and Patchouli.

Is Cuir de Russie or Forbidden 5 better for summer or winter?

Cuir de Russie suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Cuir de Russie and Forbidden 5?

Cuir de Russie has top notes of Aldehydes, Lime, Petitgrain and Lemon, heart notes of Violet, Styrax, Violet Leaf and Ylang-Ylang, a base of Leather, Oakmoss, Patchouli and Cade oil. Forbidden 5 features Aldehydes, Oakmoss, Orange Blossom, Black Currant and Guaiac Wood.