Fragrance comparison

Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum vs Pierre de Velay No. 23

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 30 Oct 2026 949 ratings analysed

Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum

Chanel

4.11911 votes

Rank #28,064 LeatherSmoky

Full profile Similar & dupes

32%scent match

Clearly different

5 wins

Pierre de Velay No. 23

Roja Dove

4.1138 votes

Rank #15,552 AmberWoody

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 takes 5 of 7 categories.

Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum
Choose it for a leather and smoky character. Wins on ratings & consensus and community sentiment. Best in winter, daytime wear.
Pierre de Velay No. 23
Choose it for a amber and woody character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear.

Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum2/7

Pierre de Velay No. 235/7

Ratings & consensus: Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum
Community sentiment: Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum
Longevity: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Sillage & projection: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Value for money: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Versatility: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Pierre de Velay No. 23

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Cuir de Russie Eau de ParfumChanel

Pierre de Velay No. 23Roja Dove

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.11/ 5 · 911 votes

Have 76%Had 24%Want 0%

4.11/ 5 · 38 votes

Have 35%Had 11%Want 54%

Category winnerCuir de Russie Eau de ParfumRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

48%Love

29%Like

10%Ok

10%Dislike

2%Hate

911 votes

53%Love

24%Like

8%Ok

13%Dislike

3%Hate

38 votes

Category winnerCuir de Russie Eau de ParfumMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity66

〰 Sillage55

♥ Love / hate78

⏱ Longevity75

〰 Sillage61

♥ Love / hate78

Category winners

LongevityPierre de Velay No. 23

SillagePierre de Velay No. 23

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value33

¤ Price value38

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Best value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

leather100%

smoky92%

white floral84%

yellow floral77%

woody69%

sweet61%

amber100%

woody92%

animalic84%

musky77%

powdery69%

white floral61%

Scent match32%Clearly different · both woody and white floral

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top15-30 mins

Orange BlossomMandarin OrangeBergamot

Heart2-4 hrs

Ylang-YlangJasmineTobaccoRose

Base6-8+ hrs

LeatherBirchResins

Top

AldehydesBergamotMandarin Orange

Heart

Ylang-YlangJasmineVioletRose de MaiOrange Blossom

Base

AmbergrisCivetLabdanumLeatherMuskCedarOakmossTobacco

InformationalShared notesOrange Blossom, Mandarin Orange, Bergamot and Ylang-Ylang. Durations are only published for Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring64

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day100

Night91

Spring100

Summer31

Fall100

Winter77

Day83

Night100

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Most year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men13

Unisex59

Women28

Men11

Unisex68

Women21

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#28,064

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#15,552

PerfumerRoja Dove

Launched—

Reviews8

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Higher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Chanel Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum delivers a bold contrast between crisp citrus and dark, smoky leather. The first spray hits hard. A bright flash of bergamot and mandarin quickly yields to authentic Russian leather soaked in birch tar. Sweet pipe tobacco and warm resins slowly cushion the smoky bite. It never turns…

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Pierre de Velay No. 23 opens with bright aldehydes and soft citrus, then quickly settles into a powdery floral heart of ylang-ylang, jasmine, violet, rose and orange blossom. The real twist is underneath, where amber, leather, tobacco and animalic notes give it a darker, more intimate edge. It suits someone who enjoys…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum or Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 takes 5 of 7 categories. Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum is rated 4.11/5 from 911 votes; Pierre de Velay No. 23 is rated 4.11/5 from 38 votes. Choose Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum for a leather and smoky character. Wins on ratings & consensus and community sentiment. Best in winter, daytime wear. Choose Pierre de Velay No. 23 for a amber and woody character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum or Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 lasts longest (Pierre de Velay No. 23 75/100, Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum 66/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum or Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 projects furthest (Pierre de Velay No. 23 61/100, Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum 55/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum and Pierre de Velay No. 23 smell similar?

Clearly different: a 32% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody and white floral accords. Common notes include Orange Blossom, Mandarin Orange, Bergamot and Ylang-Ylang.

Is Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum or Pierre de Velay No. 23 better for summer or winter?

For summer, Pierre de Velay No. 23 is the stronger pick. For winter, Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum is the stronger pick. Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum suits daytime wear; Pierre de Velay No. 23 suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum and Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Cuir de Russie Eau de Parfum has top notes of Orange Blossom, Mandarin Orange and Bergamot, heart notes of Ylang-Ylang, Jasmine, Tobacco and Rose, a base of Leather, Birch and Resins. Pierre de Velay No. 23 has top notes of Aldehydes, Bergamot and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Ylang-Ylang, Jasmine, Violet and Rose de Mai, a base of Ambergris, Civet, Labdanum and Leather.