Cuir Montant vs Elysees 64 83
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
43%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Elysees 64 83 takes 3 of 4 categories.
Cuir MontantChoose it for a musky and leather character. Wins on longevity.
Elysees 64 83Choose it for a amber and animalic character. Wins on sillage & projection, value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Cuir Montant1/4
Elysees 64 833/4
- Ratings & consensus
- Not scored
- Community sentiment
- Not scored
- Longevity
- Cuir Montant
- Sillage & projection
- Elysees 64 83
- Value for money
- Elysees 64 83
- Versatility
- Not scored
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Elysees 64 83
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Cuir MontantJinx SmellsElysees 64 83Pierre BalmainWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split2.50/ 5 · 2 votes
Have 75%Had 0%Want 25%
4.62/ 5 · 16 votes
Have 19%Had 5%Want 76%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate0%Love
50%Like
0%Ok
0%Dislike
50%Hate
2 votes · too few to score
81%Love
13%Like
0%Ok
0%Dislike
6%Hate
16 votes · too few to score
Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityCuir Montant
SillageElysees 64 83
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerElysees 64 83Best value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothmusky100%
leather92%
aromatic84%
animalic77%
woody69%
fresh spicy61%
amber100%
animalic92%
aromatic84%
woody77%
earthy69%
floral61%
Scent match43%Some overlap · both animalic, aromatic and woody
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop
Citruses
Heart
PatchouliGeraniumVanillaLeather
Base
Mysore SandalwoodBirch TarAmbretteVetiverCivetMusk
Top
ChamomileAldehydesCitruses
Heart
LavenderRoseWildflowersJasmineGeranium
Base
AmbergrisVetiverLeatherLabdanumPatchouliVanillaOakmossCivet
InformationalShared notesCitruses, Patchouli, Geranium and Vanilla. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonNo season votes yet
Spring75
Summer50
Fall100
Winter63
Day100
Night71
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#74,686
PerfumerArthur Clay Emrick
Launched—
Reviews0
Overall rank#39,913
PerfumerGermaine Cellier
Launched—
Reviews0
Category winnerElysees 64 83Higher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotCuir Montant by Jinx Smells puts a raw, old-school spin on classic leather perfumery. The scent opens with a punch of bitter citrus and pungent wintergreen before quickly revealing a dark heart of smoky Spanish leather, earthy patchouli, and green geranium. As the fragrance settles onto your skin, animalic civet and h…
Reviews →Elysees 64 83 by Pierre Balmain is a rare floral chypre from 1946, composed by Germaine Cellier. It opens with bright citruses, sharp chamomile, and crisp aldehydes, before settling into a heart of lavender, geranium, and jasmine. The base anchors the scent with dry leather, earthy oakmoss, patchouli, and warm ambergr…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Cuir Montant or Elysees 64 83?
Elysees 64 83 takes 3 of 4 categories. Cuir Montant is rated 2.50/5 from 2 votes; Elysees 64 83 is rated 4.62/5 from 16 votes. Choose Cuir Montant for a musky and leather character. Wins on longevity. Choose Elysees 64 83 for a amber and animalic character. Wins on sillage & projection, value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Which lasts longer, Cuir Montant or Elysees 64 83?
Cuir Montant lasts longest (Cuir Montant 80/100, Elysees 64 83 70/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Cuir Montant or Elysees 64 83?
Elysees 64 83 projects furthest (Elysees 64 83 58/100, Cuir Montant 50/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Cuir Montant and Elysees 64 83 smell similar?
Some overlap: a 43% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share animalic, aromatic and woody accords. Common notes include Citruses, Patchouli, Geranium and Vanilla.
Is Cuir Montant or Elysees 64 83 better for summer or winter?
Elysees 64 83 suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Cuir Montant and Elysees 64 83?
Cuir Montant has top notes of Citruses, heart notes of Patchouli, Geranium, Vanilla and Leather, a base of Mysore Sandalwood, Birch Tar, Ambrette and Vetiver. Elysees 64 83 has top notes of Chamomile, Aldehydes and Citruses, heart notes of Lavender, Rose, Wildflowers and Jasmine, a base of Ambergris, Vetiver, Leather and Labdanum.
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