Fragrance comparison

Ýdalir vs Fougère Noire

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 20 Oct 2026 139 ratings analysed

Ýdalir

Alkemia Perfumes

3.6247 votes

Rank #16,476 WoodyAromatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

52%scent match

Some overlap

6 wins

Fougère Noire

Sultan Pasha Attars

4.3992 votes

Rank #2,712 AromaticWoody

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Fougère Noire takes 6 of 7 categories.

Ýdalir
Choose it for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on value for money. Best in winter, evening wear.
Fougère Noire
Choose it for a aromatic and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Ýdalir1/7

Fougère Noire6/7

Ratings & consensus: Fougère Noire
Community sentiment: Fougère Noire
Longevity: Fougère Noire
Sillage & projection: Fougère Noire
Value for money: Ýdalir
Versatility: Fougère Noire
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Fougère Noire

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

ÝdalirAlkemia Perfumes

Fougère NoireSultan Pasha Attars

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.62/ 5 · 47 votes

Have 44%Had 11%Want 45%

4.39/ 5 · 92 votes

Have 30%Had 11%Want 59%

Category winnerFougère NoireRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

40%Love

21%Like

6%Ok

23%Dislike

9%Hate

47 votes

71%Love

17%Like

5%Ok

7%Dislike

0%Hate

42 votes

Category winnerFougère NoireMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity66

〰 Sillage60

♥ Love / hate65

⏱ Longevity86

〰 Sillage76

♥ Love / hate88

Category winners

LongevityFougère Noire

SillageFougère Noire

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value83

¤ Price value68

Category winnerÝdalirBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

aromatic88%

fresh spicy77%

conifer65%

mossy53%

fresh42%

aromatic100%

woody90%

fresh spicy80%

earthy70%

citrus60%

mossy50%

Scent match52%Some overlap · both woody, aromatic and fresh spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Notes

Siberian PineJuniperBalsam FirOakmossAmber

No top / heart / base split published

Top

elemiPineCalabrian bergamotClary SageLavenderLemonGeraniumCoffee

Heart

Siberian PineOakmossMushroomBalsam FirTobaccoCyclamenJasmineCarnation

Base

SandalwoodBourbon VetiverTonka BeanIso E SuperMuskCivetCastoreumAmbergris

InformationalShared notesSiberian Pine, Balsam Fir and Oakmoss. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring30

Summer15

Fall95

Winter100

Day69

Night100

Spring100

Summer54

Fall85

Winter31

Day100

Night80

Category winnerFougère NoireMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men45

Unisex55

Women0

Men71

Unisex29

Women0

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#16,476

PerfumerSharra Lamoureaux

Launched—

Reviews16

Overall rank#2,712

PerfumerSultan Pasha

Launched—

Reviews33

Category winnerFougère NoireHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Ýdalir by Alkemia Perfumes is a fragrance for women and men. The nose behind this fragrance is Sharra Lamoureaux.

Reviews →

Fougère Noire by Sultan Pasha Attars is a dense, aromatic composition for men. It captures the humid atmosphere of a forest floor, balancing dark, resinous pine and damp oakmoss with bright touches of bergamot and clary sage. Designed for those who appreciate complex, natural-feeling attars, it projects a sophisticate…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Ýdalir or Fougère Noire?

Fougère Noire takes 6 of 7 categories. Ýdalir is rated 3.62/5 from 47 votes; Fougère Noire is rated 4.39/5 from 92 votes. Choose Ýdalir for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on value for money. Best in winter, evening wear. Choose Fougère Noire for a aromatic and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Ýdalir or Fougère Noire?

Fougère Noire lasts longest (Fougère Noire 86/100, Ýdalir 66/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Ýdalir or Fougère Noire?

Fougère Noire projects furthest (Fougère Noire 76/100, Ýdalir 60/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Ýdalir and Fougère Noire smell similar?

Some overlap: a 52% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, aromatic and fresh spicy accords. Common notes include Siberian Pine, Balsam Fir and Oakmoss.

Is Ýdalir or Fougère Noire better for summer or winter?

For summer, Fougère Noire is the stronger pick. For winter, Ýdalir is the stronger pick. Ýdalir suits evening wear; Fougère Noire suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Ýdalir and Fougère Noire?

Ýdalir features Siberian Pine, Juniper, Balsam Fir, Oakmoss and Amber. Fougère Noire has top notes of elemi, Pine, Calabrian bergamot and Clary Sage, heart notes of Siberian Pine, Oakmoss, Mushroom and Balsam Fir, a base of Sandalwood, Bourbon Vetiver, Tonka Bean and Iso E Super.