Fragrance comparison

Eau de Varens N° 4 vs Unforgivable Women

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 19 Oct 2026 736 ratings analysed

Eau de Varens N° 4

Ulric de Varens

3.9859 votes

Rank #25,989 CitrusFresh Spicy

Full profile Similar & dupes

41%scent match

Some overlap

4 wins

Unforgivable Women

Sean John

3.79677 votes

Rank #2,776 WoodyPowdery

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Unforgivable Women takes 4 of 7 categories.

Eau de Varens N° 4
Choose it for a citrus and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear.
Unforgivable Women
Choose it for a woody and powdery character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and versatility. Best in winter.

Eau de Varens N° 43/7

Unforgivable Women4/7

Ratings & consensus: Eau de Varens N° 4
Community sentiment: Eau de Varens N° 4
Longevity: Unforgivable Women
Sillage & projection: Unforgivable Women
Value for money: Eau de Varens N° 4
Versatility: Unforgivable Women
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Unforgivable Women

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Eau de Varens N° 4Ulric de Varens

Unforgivable WomenSean John

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.98/ 5 · 59 votes

Have 38%Had 26%Want 35%

3.79/ 5 · 677 votes

Have 58%Had 42%Want 0%

Category winnerEau de Varens N° 4Rating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

29%Love

54%Like

3%Ok

14%Dislike

0%Hate

59 votes

30%Love

44%Like

3%Ok

23%Dislike

1%Hate

677 votes

Category winnerEau de Varens N° 4Most positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity46

〰 Sillage45

♥ Love / hate75

⏱ Longevity62

〰 Sillage59

♥ Love / hate70

Category winners

LongevityUnforgivable Women

SillageUnforgivable Women

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value88

¤ Price value67

Category winnerEau de Varens N° 4Best value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

citrus100%

fresh spicy83%

aromatic65%

woody48%

fresh30%

woody100%

powdery92%

fruity84%

citrus77%

earthy69%

fresh61%

Scent match41%Some overlap · both citrus, woody and fresh

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top15-30 mins

BergamotGrapefruitBitter Orange

Heart1-2 hrs

CypressLily-of-the-ValleyRose

Base2-3 hrs

CedarMuskSandalwoodAmber

Top

PearBitter OrangeAppleCassiaGrapefruitNeroliBergamot

Heart

JasmineFreesiaOrange BlossomVioletRoseCyclamenLily-of-the-Valley

Base

SandalwoodPatchouliIrisTonka BeanCedarVanillaAmberOakmoss

InformationalShared notesBergamot, Grapefruit, Bitter Orange and Lily-of-the-Valley. Durations are only published for Eau de Varens N° 4, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring59

Summer100

Fall6

Winter3

Day100

Night13

Spring88

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Category winnerUnforgivable WomenMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men9

Unisex78

Women13

Casual 52%Work 33%Date 9%Party 6%

Men0

Unisex15

Women85

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#25,989

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews4

Overall rank#2,776

PerfumerDavid Apel

Launched—

Reviews146

Category winnerUnforgivable WomenHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Eau de Varens N° 4 by Ulric de Varens is an energetic, tart citrus cologne built around bitter orange, sharp grapefruit, and sunny bergamot. The first spray releases a rapid flash of alcohol that evaporates in seconds. Then, raw citrus oils take over. The opening smells like freshly crushed peel squeezed over cold wel…

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Unforgivable Women by Sean John is a complex, woody, and powdery floral fragrance released in 2007. It centers on an intricate layering of pear, bitter orange, and neroli over a deep base of sandalwood and amber. This versatile scent performs well during the transition from summer to autumn, offering a balanced, non-s…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Eau de Varens N° 4 or Unforgivable Women?

Unforgivable Women takes 4 of 7 categories. Eau de Varens N° 4 is rated 3.98/5 from 59 votes; Unforgivable Women is rated 3.79/5 from 677 votes. Choose Eau de Varens N° 4 for a citrus and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear. Choose Unforgivable Women for a woody and powdery character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and versatility. Best in winter.

Which lasts longer, Eau de Varens N° 4 or Unforgivable Women?

Unforgivable Women lasts longest (Unforgivable Women 62/100, Eau de Varens N° 4 46/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Eau de Varens N° 4 or Unforgivable Women?

Unforgivable Women projects furthest (Unforgivable Women 59/100, Eau de Varens N° 4 45/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Eau de Varens N° 4 and Unforgivable Women smell similar?

Some overlap: a 41% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share citrus, woody and fresh accords. Common notes include Bergamot, Grapefruit, Bitter Orange and Lily-of-the-Valley.

Is Eau de Varens N° 4 or Unforgivable Women better for summer or winter?

For summer, Eau de Varens N° 4 is the stronger pick. For winter, Unforgivable Women is the stronger pick. Eau de Varens N° 4 suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Eau de Varens N° 4 and Unforgivable Women?

Eau de Varens N° 4 has top notes of Bergamot, Grapefruit and Bitter Orange, heart notes of Cypress, Lily-of-the-Valley and Rose, a base of Cedar, Musk, Sandalwood and Amber. Unforgivable Women has top notes of Pear, Bitter Orange, Apple and Cassia, heart notes of Jasmine, Freesia, Orange Blossom and Violet, a base of Sandalwood, Patchouli, Iris and Tonka Bean.