Empire Icon vs Forest Livre
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
66%scent match
Closely related
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2.
Empire IconChoose it for a fresh spicy and woody character. Wins on longevity and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, evening wear.
Forest LivreChoose it for a citrus and woody character. Wins on sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear.
Empire Icon2/4
Forest Livre2/4
- Ratings & consensus
- Not scored
- Community sentiment
- Not scored
- Longevity
- Empire Icon
- Sillage & projection
- Forest Livre
- Value for money
- Forest Livre
- Versatility
- Not scored
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Empire Icon
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Empire IconHinodeForest LivreÁgua de CheiroWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split4.40/ 5 · 25 votes
Have 34%Had 4%Want 62%
4.00/ 5 · 1 votes
Have 40%Had 20%Want 40%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate56%Love
28%Like
16%Ok
0%Dislike
0%Hate
25 votes
0%Love
100%Like
0%Ok
0%Dislike
0%Hate
1 vote · too few to score
Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityEmpire Icon
SillageForest Livre
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerForest LivreBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothfresh spicy100%
woody91%
aromatic83%
warm spicy74%
cinnamon65%
lavender56%
citrus100%
woody92%
warm spicy84%
fresh spicy77%
aromatic69%
cinnamon61%
Scent match66%Closely related · both woody, fresh spicy and warm spicy
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop20-30 mins
elemiBlack PepperCinnamonGrapefruit
Heart2-4 hrs
NutmegLavenderGingerOrange Blossom
Base6-8+ hrs
CedarGaiac WoodLabdanumClearwood
Top
Mandarin OrangeLavenderCitronGrapefruit
Heart
CinnamonNutmegBlack PepperGinger
Base
PatchouliVetiverCedarAmberwood
InformationalShared notesBlack Pepper, Cinnamon, Grapefruit and Nutmeg. Durations are only published for Empire Icon, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring50
Summer6
Fall94
Winter100
Day38
Night100
Spring100
Summer50
Fall50
Winter100
Day50
Night100
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#31,530
PerfumerIlias Ermenidis
Launched—
Reviews0
Overall rank#66,618
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews0
Category winnerEmpire IconHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotEmpire Icon by Hinode opens with an invigorating kick of black pepper and tart grapefruit, instantly warmed by spicy cinnamon and resinous elemi. Within minutes, the zesty sharpness settles into an aromatic core of French lavender, fresh grated ginger, and sweet orange blossom, giving the scent a balanced barbershop-m…
Reviews →Forest Livre by Água de Cheiro brings a crisp, aromatic profile designed for the modern man. It opens with a bright burst of mandarin orange and citron, supported by lavender. As it warms on the skin, notes of cinnamon, nutmeg, and black pepper add a grounded spice, making it a reliable choice for daily wear throughou…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Empire Icon or Forest Livre?
No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2. Empire Icon is rated 4.40/5 from 25 votes; Forest Livre is rated 4.00/5 from 1 votes. Choose Empire Icon for a fresh spicy and woody character. Wins on longevity and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, evening wear. Choose Forest Livre for a citrus and woody character. Wins on sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear.
Which lasts longer, Empire Icon or Forest Livre?
Empire Icon lasts longest (Empire Icon 73/100, Forest Livre 60/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Empire Icon or Forest Livre?
Forest Livre projects furthest (Forest Livre 75/100, Empire Icon 63/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Empire Icon and Forest Livre smell similar?
Closely related: a 66% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, fresh spicy and warm spicy accords. Common notes include Black Pepper, Cinnamon, Grapefruit and Nutmeg.
Is Empire Icon or Forest Livre better for summer or winter?
Empire Icon suits evening wear; Forest Livre suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Empire Icon and Forest Livre?
Empire Icon has top notes of elemi, Black Pepper, Cinnamon and Grapefruit, heart notes of Nutmeg, Lavender, Ginger and Orange Blossom, a base of Cedar, Gaiac Wood, Labdanum and Clearwood. Forest Livre has top notes of Mandarin Orange, Lavender, Citron and Grapefruit, heart notes of Cinnamon, Nutmeg, Black Pepper and Ginger, a base of Patchouli, Vetiver, Cedar and Amberwood.
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