First vs Creation 1984
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
39%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
First takes 4 of 7 categories.
FirstChoose it for a floral and green character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and versatility. Best in spring, daytime wear.
Creation 1984Choose it for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.
First4/7
Creation 19843/7
- Ratings & consensus
- First
- Community sentiment
- First
- Longevity
- Creation 1984
- Sillage & projection
- Creation 1984
- Value for money
- Creation 1984
- Versatility
- First
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- First
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
FirstVan Cleef & ArpelsCreation 1984Ted LapidusWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split3.98/ 5 · 3,483 votes
Have 63%Had 37%Want 0%
3.87/ 5 · 1,170 votes
Have 50%Had 50%Want 0%
Category winnerFirstRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate38%Love
41%Like
3%Ok
17%Dislike
1%Hate
3,483 votes
28%Love
51%Like
2%Ok
18%Dislike
1%Hate
1,170 votes
Category winnerFirstMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityCreation 1984
SillageCreation 1984
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerCreation 1984Best value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothfloral100%
green92%
aldehydic84%
white floral77%
yellow floral69%
fresh61%
woody100%
green92%
aromatic84%
earthy77%
white floral69%
mossy61%
Scent match39%Some overlap · both green and white floral
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop20-30 mins
AldehydesBergamotBlack CurrantPeachMandarin OrangeRaspberry
Heart3-4 hrs
NarcissusHiacynthJasmineLily-of-the-ValleyCarnationYlang-YlangOrris RootTuberose
Base6-8+ hrs
CivetOakmossHoneyAmberMuskSandalwoodVetiverTonka Bean
Top
GalbanumMangoBlack CurrantPassionfruitPeachBergamotNeroliLemon
Heart
NarcissusCarnationTuberoseYlang-YlangOrrisGardeniaLily-of-the-ValleyJasmine
Base
OakmossVetiverSandalwoodPatchouliAmberMuskVanilla
InformationalShared notesBergamot, Black Currant, Peach and Narcissus. Durations are only published for First, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring100
Summer0
Fall0
Winter99
Day100
Night85
Spring84
Summer0
Fall0
Winter100
Day–
Night–
Category winnerFirstMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#955
PerfumerJean-Claude Ellena
Launched—
Reviews205
Overall rank#2,662
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews55
Category winnerFirstHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotFirst by Van Cleef & Arpels opens with a brisk, effervescent burst of aldehydes, tart bergamot, and ripe black currant that immediately calls to mind crisp, high-end French milled soap. As the initial sparkle settles, the scent unfolds into an abundant floral heart packed with spring narcissus, dewy green hyacinth, an…
Reviews →Creation 1984 by Ted Lapidus is a powerhouse chypre that clashes bitter galbanum with sweet mango. This vintage classic targets collectors who appreciate green oakmoss and complex, sunny floral blends. It projects a nostalgic, self-assured aura, perfect for cool spring days when you want a fragrance that cuts through …
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, First or Creation 1984?
First takes 4 of 7 categories. First is rated 3.98/5 from 3,483 votes; Creation 1984 is rated 3.87/5 from 1,170 votes. Choose First for a floral and green character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and versatility. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose Creation 1984 for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.
Which lasts longer, First or Creation 1984?
Creation 1984 lasts longest (Creation 1984 80/100, First 72/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, First or Creation 1984?
Creation 1984 projects furthest (Creation 1984 73/100, First 64/100), based on community performance votes.
Do First and Creation 1984 smell similar?
Some overlap: a 39% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share green and white floral accords. Common notes include Bergamot, Black Currant, Peach and Narcissus.
Is First or Creation 1984 better for summer or winter?
For summer, First is the stronger pick. For winter, Creation 1984 is the stronger pick. First suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in First and Creation 1984?
First has top notes of Aldehydes, Bergamot, Black Currant and Peach, heart notes of Narcissus, Hiacynth, Jasmine and Lily-of-the-Valley, a base of Civet, Oakmoss, Honey and Amber. Creation 1984 has top notes of Galbanum, Mango, Black Currant and Passionfruit, heart notes of Narcissus, Carnation, Tuberose and Ylang-Ylang, a base of Oakmoss, Vetiver, Sandalwood and Patchouli.
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