Fragrance comparison

First Lady vs Joy

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 14 Nov 2026 42 ratings analysed

3 wins

First Lady

Judith Williams

3.4323 votes

Rank #24,676 SweetCitrus

Full profile Similar & dupes

28%scent match

Clearly different

Joy

Phytoderm

3.6319 votes

Rank #60,440 FruityAquatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

First Lady takes 3 of 4 categories.

First Lady
Choose it for a sweet and citrus character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Joy
Choose it for a fruity and aquatic character. Wins on ratings & consensus. Best in summer, daytime wear.

First Lady3/4

Joy1/4

Ratings & consensus: Joy
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: First Lady
Sillage & projection: First Lady
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: First Lady

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

First LadyJudith Williams

JoyPhytoderm

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.43/ 5 · 23 votes

Have 8%Had 8%Want 84%

3.63/ 5 · 19 votes

Have 38%Had 5%Want 56%

Category winnerJoyRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

29%Love

43%Like

14%Ok

14%Dislike

0%Hate

7 votes · too few to score

26%Love

42%Like

16%Ok

0%Dislike

16%Hate

19 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity66

〰 Sillage54

♥ Love / hate63

⏱ Longevity43

〰 Sillage35

♥ Love / hate66

Category winners

LongevityFirst Lady

SillageFirst Lady

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price valueN/A

¤ Price value79

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

sweet100%

citrus92%

woody84%

white floral77%

fruity69%

caramel61%

fruity100%

aquatic92%

fresh84%

green77%

ozonic69%

sweet61%

Scent match28%Clearly different · both fruity and sweet

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Brazilian OrangePomegranateMandarin OrangeCinnamonPearItalian LemonMelon

Heart

Ylang-YlangJasmineOrange BlossomRose

Base

CaramelCoconutApricotMuskHaitian VetiverOrris RootVanillaOakmoss

Top

Brazilian OrangePearGreen LeavesMelon

Heart

Green AppleLotusRed FruitsWatermelonCaramel

Base

Lily-of-the-ValleyVioletJasmineCedarVanilla

InformationalShared notesBrazilian Orange, Pear, Melon and Jasmine. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring67

Summer67

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night83

Spring88

Summer100

Fall13

Winter0

Day100

Night9

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men0

Unisex0

Women100

Men0

Unisex27

Women73

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#24,676

PerfumerPierre Bourdon

Launched—

Reviews10

Overall rank#60,440

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerFirst LadyHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

First Lady by Judith Williams opens with a bright splash of Brazilian orange and pomegranate, settling into a heart of jasmine and ylang-ylang. The fragrance finds its warmth in a gourmand base of caramel, coconut, and vanilla. It is a floral-oriental composition suited for cool spring evenings or casual autumn days, …

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Joy by Phytoderm is a floral-fruity scent for women featuring an optimistic mix of melon, pear, and caramel. It offers a light, refreshing profile that works well for casual daytime wear during warm spring and summer months. The composition settles into a soft vanilla and cedar base, creating a subtle, clean presence …

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, First Lady or Joy?

First Lady takes 3 of 4 categories. First Lady is rated 3.43/5 from 23 votes; Joy is rated 3.63/5 from 19 votes. Choose First Lady for a sweet and citrus character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear. Choose Joy for a fruity and aquatic character. Wins on ratings & consensus. Best in summer, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, First Lady or Joy?

First Lady lasts longest (First Lady 66/100, Joy 43/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, First Lady or Joy?

First Lady projects furthest (First Lady 54/100, Joy 35/100), based on community performance votes.

Do First Lady and Joy smell similar?

Clearly different: a 28% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share fruity and sweet accords. Common notes include Brazilian Orange, Pear, Melon and Jasmine.

Is First Lady or Joy better for summer or winter?

First Lady suits daytime wear; Joy suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in First Lady and Joy?

First Lady has top notes of Brazilian Orange, Pomegranate, Mandarin Orange and Cinnamon, heart notes of Ylang-Ylang, Jasmine, Orange Blossom and Rose, a base of Caramel, Coconut, Apricot and Musk. Joy has top notes of Brazilian Orange, Pear, Green Leaves and Melon, heart notes of Green Apple, Lotus, Red Fruits and Watermelon, a base of Lily-of-the-Valley, Violet, Jasmine and Cedar.