Fragrance comparison

Force vs Saint

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 14 Nov 2026 44 ratings analysed

Force

TOBBA

4.3043 votes

Rank #26,224 WoodyAromatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

48%scent match

Some overlap

Saint

Orali Perfume

4.001 votes

Rank #65,355 AromaticFresh Spicy

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2.

Force
Choose it for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Saint
Choose it for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on longevity and value for money. Best in spring, day or night wear.

Force2/4

Saint2/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Saint
Sillage & projection: Force
Value for money: Saint
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Force

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

ForceTOBBA

SaintOrali Perfume

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.30/ 5 · 43 votes

Have 25%Had 7%Want 69%

4.00/ 5 · 1 votes

Have 0%Had 0%Want 100%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

53%Love

33%Like

7%Ok

5%Dislike

2%Hate

43 votes

0%Love

100%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

1 vote · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity65

〰 Sillage54

♥ Love / hate83

⏱ Longevity100

〰 Sillage50

♥ Love / hate75

Category winners

LongevitySaint

SillageForce

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value47

¤ Price value50

Category winnerSaintBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

aromatic90%

fresh spicy80%

patchouli70%

balsamic60%

warm spicy50%

aromatic100%

fresh spicy92%

woody84%

amber77%

powdery69%

soft spicy61%

Scent match48%Some overlap · both aromatic, woody and fresh spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Cypress

Heart

Balsam FirIncense

Base

PatchouliSuedeOrris Root

Top

CorianderJuniper Berries

Heart

LaurelsLemongrassTonka BeanClary Sage

Base

Orris RootSandalwoodAmberBalsam FirIncense

InformationalShared notesBalsam Fir, Incense and Orris Root. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring38

Summer13

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night78

Spring100

Summer100

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men50

Unisex46

Women4

Men100

Unisex0

Women0

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#26,224

PerfumerJasper Li

Launched—

Reviews4

Overall rank#65,355

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerForceHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

TOBBA Force opens with a cool, sharp blast of cypress that feels like stepping into a damp, foggy evergreen forest. On the skin, this herbal chill settles into the warmth of balsam fir and patchouli, creating a dark, earthy forest floor effect. Rather than feeling heavy or sweet, the scent retains a dry, clean quality…

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Saint by Orali Perfume offers an unusual green freshness that transitions into a resinous warmth. The initial spray releases a crisp blast of coriander and bitter juniper berries. As it sits on the skin, Lemongrass adds a bright, herbal bite before the base of rich balsam fir and dry incense takes over. It is an excel…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Force or Saint?

No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2. Force is rated 4.30/5 from 43 votes; Saint is rated 4.00/5 from 1 votes. Choose Force for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear. Choose Saint for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on longevity and value for money. Best in spring, day or night wear.

Which lasts longer, Force or Saint?

Saint lasts longest (Saint 100/100, Force 65/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Force or Saint?

Force projects furthest (Force 54/100, Saint 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Force and Saint smell similar?

Some overlap: a 48% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share aromatic, woody and fresh spicy accords. Common notes include Balsam Fir, Incense and Orris Root.

Is Force or Saint better for summer or winter?

Force suits daytime wear; Saint suits day or night wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Force and Saint?

Force has top notes of Cypress, heart notes of Balsam Fir and Incense, a base of Patchouli, Suede and Orris Root. Saint has top notes of Coriander and Juniper Berries, heart notes of Laurels, Lemongrass, Tonka Bean and Clary Sage, a base of Orris Root, Sandalwood, Amber and Balsam Fir.