Fragrance comparison

Force vs Vintage

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 14 Nov 2026 2,862 ratings analysed

4 wins

Force

TOBBA

4.3043 votes

Rank #26,224 WoodyAromatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

47%scent match

Some overlap

Vintage

John Varvatos

4.172,819 votes

Rank #948 AromaticFresh Spicy

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Force takes 4 of 7 categories.

Force
Choose it for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on community sentiment, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Vintage
Choose it for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus, value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, evening wear.

Force4/7

Vintage3/7

Ratings & consensus: Vintage
Community sentiment: Force
Longevity: Force
Sillage & projection: Force
Value for money: Vintage
Versatility: Force
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Vintage

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

ForceTOBBA

VintageJohn Varvatos

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.30/ 5 · 43 votes

Have 25%Had 7%Want 69%

4.17/ 5 · 2,819 votes

Have 78%Had 23%Want 0%

Category winnerVintageRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

53%Love

33%Like

7%Ok

5%Dislike

2%Hate

43 votes

40%Love

45%Like

6%Ok

8%Dislike

1%Hate

2,819 votes

Category winnerForceMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity65

〰 Sillage54

♥ Love / hate83

⏱ Longevity58

〰 Sillage51

♥ Love / hate79

Category winners

LongevityForce

SillageForce

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value47

¤ Price value70

Category winnerVintageBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

aromatic90%

fresh spicy80%

patchouli70%

balsamic60%

warm spicy50%

aromatic100%

fresh spicy92%

woody84%

sweet77%

tobacco69%

green61%

Scent match47%Some overlap · both aromatic, woody and fresh spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Cypress

Heart

Balsam FirIncense

Base

PatchouliSuedeOrris Root

Top20-30 mins

RhubarbQuincePepperWormwoodBasilFennel

Heart2-4 hrs

CinnamonJuniper BerriesLavenderGreen LeavesOrris RootJasmine

Base4-6 hrs

TobaccoSuedeBalsam FirTonka BeanWoody NotesOakmossPatchouli

InformationalShared notesBalsam Fir, Patchouli, Suede and Orris Root. Durations are only published for Vintage, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring38

Summer13

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night78

Spring64

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day86

Night100

Category winnerForceMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men50

Unisex46

Women4

Men96

Unisex3

Women1

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#26,224

PerfumerJasper Li

Launched—

Reviews4

Overall rank#948

PerfumerRodrigo Flores-Roux

Launched—

Reviews207

Category winnerVintageHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

TOBBA Force opens with a cool, sharp blast of cypress that feels like stepping into a damp, foggy evergreen forest. On the skin, this herbal chill settles into the warmth of balsam fir and patchouli, creating a dark, earthy forest floor effect. Rather than feeling heavy or sweet, the scent retains a dry, clean quality…

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John Varvatos Vintage brings a rugged spin to traditional barbershop scents. The opening surprises you. Tart rhubarb and sweet quince clash with crushed black pepper and herbal fennel. Within twenty minutes, that sharp fruitiness yields to dry English lavender, warm cinnamon, and green juniper berries. Everything anch…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Force or Vintage?

Force takes 4 of 7 categories. Force is rated 4.30/5 from 43 votes; Vintage is rated 4.17/5 from 2,819 votes. Choose Force for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on community sentiment, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in fall, daytime wear. Choose Vintage for a aromatic and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus, value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, Force or Vintage?

Force lasts longest (Force 65/100, Vintage 58/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Force or Vintage?

Force projects furthest (Force 54/100, Vintage 51/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Force and Vintage smell similar?

Some overlap: a 47% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share aromatic, woody and fresh spicy accords. Common notes include Balsam Fir, Patchouli, Suede and Orris Root.

Is Force or Vintage better for summer or winter?

For summer, Force is the stronger pick. For winter, Force is the stronger pick. Force suits daytime wear; Vintage suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Force and Vintage?

Force has top notes of Cypress, heart notes of Balsam Fir and Incense, a base of Patchouli, Suede and Orris Root. Vintage has top notes of Rhubarb, Quince, Pepper and Wormwood, heart notes of Cinnamon, Juniper Berries, Lavender and Green Leaves, a base of Tobacco, Suede, Balsam Fir and Tonka Bean.