Genesis Noir vs Presence
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
45%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Genesis Noir takes 3 of 5 categories.
Genesis NoirChoose it for a citrus and mossy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear.
PresenceChoose it for a mossy and floral character. Wins on note pyramid duration and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Genesis Noir3/5
Presence2/5
- Ratings & consensus
- Not scored
- Community sentiment
- Not scored
- Longevity
- Genesis Noir
- Sillage & projection
- Genesis Noir
- Value for money
- Genesis Noir
- Versatility
- Not scored
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Presence
- Fragranxe ranking
- Presence
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Genesis NoirLe ChameauPresenceHoubigantWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split3.75/ 5 · 4 votes
Have 23%Had 23%Want 54%
4.15/ 5 · 55 votes
Have 44%Had 11%Want 45%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate50%Love
0%Like
25%Ok
25%Dislike
0%Hate
4 votes · too few to score
42%Love
44%Like
2%Ok
13%Dislike
0%Hate
55 votes
Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityGenesis Noir
SillageGenesis Noir
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerGenesis NoirBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothcitrus100%
mossy92%
woody84%
musky77%
earthy69%
powdery61%
mossy100%
floral92%
earthy84%
woody77%
fresh69%
fruity61%
Scent match45%Some overlap · both mossy, woody and earthy
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop30 to 45 minutes
LemonPeppermintCoriander
Heart2 to 3 hours
SpicesNeroli
Base4 to 7 hours
OakmossMuskCedar
Top15-30 mins
AppleAldehydesNeroliLemonBergamot
Heart2-4 hrs
OrrisHeliotropeCarnationJasmine
Base6-8+ hrs
OakmossMuskCedarVetiverSpicesAmbergrisPatchouliSandalwood
Category winnerPresenceLongest dry-down: 6-8+ hrs
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring75
Summer100
Fall50
Winter0
Day100
Night25
Spring79
Summer50
Fall100
Winter71
Day100
Night71
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#55,458
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews2
Overall rank#32,075
PerfumerRaymond Kling
Launched—
Reviews0
Category winnerPresenceHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotGenesis Noir by Le Chameau is an aromatic spicy cologne built on brisk citrus and traditional forest tones. The scent begins with an immediate blast of crisp lemon, cool peppermint, and herbal coriander. This lively splash soon transitions into a spicier heart where neroli floral tones combine with warm culinary spice…
Reviews →Houbigant Presence is a crisp, historic chypre built on striking contrasts. The first spray releases a brisk wash of tart green apple, fizzy aldehydes, and sharp lemon zest. Give it ten minutes. The top burns off rapidly to reveal a velvety, dry heart of earthy orris root and spicy carnation blossoms. It smells like v…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Genesis Noir or Presence?
Genesis Noir takes 3 of 5 categories. Genesis Noir is rated 3.75/5 from 4 votes; Presence is rated 4.15/5 from 55 votes. Choose Genesis Noir for a citrus and mossy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear. Choose Presence for a mossy and floral character. Wins on note pyramid duration and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Which lasts longer, Genesis Noir or Presence?
Genesis Noir lasts longest (Genesis Noir 74/100, Presence 68/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Genesis Noir or Presence?
Genesis Noir projects furthest (Genesis Noir 72/100, Presence 62/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Genesis Noir and Presence smell similar?
Some overlap: a 45% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share mossy, woody and earthy accords. Common notes include Lemon, Spices, Neroli and Oakmoss.
Is Genesis Noir or Presence better for summer or winter?
Genesis Noir suits daytime wear; Presence suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Genesis Noir and Presence?
Genesis Noir has top notes of Lemon, Peppermint and Coriander, heart notes of Spices and Neroli, a base of Oakmoss, Musk and Cedar. Presence has top notes of Apple, Aldehydes, Neroli and Lemon, heart notes of Orris, Heliotrope, Carnation and Jasmine, a base of Oakmoss, Musk, Cedar and Vetiver.
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