Fragrance comparison

Grove vs What Else Men

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 12 Oct 2026 23 ratings analysed

Grove

Papillon

4.002 votes

Rank #52,489 WoodyAromatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

54%scent match

Some overlap

What Else Men

A.P. Durand Parfums

4.1021 votes

Rank #28,255 CitrusAromatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2.

Grove
Choose it for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear.
What Else Men
Choose it for a citrus and aromatic character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, day or night wear.

Grove2/4

What Else Men2/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Grove
Sillage & projection: Grove
Value for money: What Else Men
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: What Else Men

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

GrovePapillon

What Else MenA.P. Durand Parfums

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.00/ 5 · 2 votes

Have 86%Had 0%Want 14%

4.10/ 5 · 21 votes

Have 69%Had 8%Want 23%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

50%Love

0%Like

50%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

2 votes · too few to score

43%Love

38%Like

5%Ok

14%Dislike

0%Hate

21 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity60

〰 Sillage50

♥ Love / hate75

⏱ Longevity51

〰 Sillage46

♥ Love / hate77

Category winners

LongevityGrove

SillageGrove

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value50

¤ Price value70

Category winnerWhat Else MenBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

aromatic92%

musky84%

earthy77%

citrus69%

amber61%

citrus100%

aromatic86%

fresh spicy72%

woody58%

musky44%

powdery30%

Scent match54%Some overlap · both aromatic, citrus and woody

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top15-30 mins

Mandarin OrangePink PepperRosemary

Heart2-4 hrs

Elemi resinVetiverCedar

Base6-8+ hrs

Woody NotesWhite MuskAmberMoss

Top

OrangeLemonBergamotMandarin OrangeAppleGinger

Heart

GeraniumVetiverSandalwoodMintRosemary

Base

MuskAmberMoss

InformationalShared notesMandarin Orange, Rosemary, Vetiver and Amber. Durations are only published for Grove, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer0

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night41

Spring100

Summer80

Fall80

Winter70

Day100

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men100

Unisex0

Women0

Casual 39%Work 36%Date 16%Party 9%

Men100

Unisex0

Women0

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#52,489

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews1

Overall rank#28,255

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews1

Category winnerWhat Else MenHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Grove by Papillon opens with a crisp burst of juicy mandarin orange and brisk culinary rosemary, sharpened by a clean prickle of pink pepper. It smells like stepping into a sunlit pine grove after a cool morning rain. Within fifteen minutes, the citrus settles down to reveal an earthy core of resinous elemi, dry cedar…

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What Else Men is a bright, clean citrus aromatic that opens with juicy orange, lemon and bergamot, then adds a crisp ginger bite. In the heart, mint and rosemary give it a fresh, showered feel over geranium and smooth woods. It settles into a soft musky amber with a touch of moss. It usually wears close, which makes i…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Grove or What Else Men?

No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2. Grove is rated 4.00/5 from 2 votes; What Else Men is rated 4.10/5 from 21 votes. Choose Grove for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose What Else Men for a citrus and aromatic character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, day or night wear.

Which lasts longer, Grove or What Else Men?

Grove lasts longest (Grove 60/100, What Else Men 51/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Grove or What Else Men?

Grove projects furthest (Grove 50/100, What Else Men 46/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Grove and What Else Men smell similar?

Some overlap: a 54% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share aromatic, citrus and woody accords. Common notes include Mandarin Orange, Rosemary, Vetiver and Amber.

Is Grove or What Else Men better for summer or winter?

Grove suits daytime wear; What Else Men suits day or night wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Grove and What Else Men?

Grove has top notes of Mandarin Orange, Pink Pepper and Rosemary, heart notes of Elemi resin, Vetiver and Cedar, a base of Woody Notes, White Musk, Amber and Moss. What Else Men has top notes of Orange, Lemon, Bergamot and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Geranium, Vetiver, Sandalwood and Mint, a base of Musk, Amber and Moss.