Fragrance comparison

Jil Sander No. 4 vs Lumière de Venise

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 21 Oct 2026 2,088 ratings analysed

6 wins

Jil Sander No. 4

Jil Sander

4.032,005 votes

Rank #682 AromaticPowdery

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35%scent match

Some overlap

Lumière de Venise

Chabaud Maison de Parfum

3.6583 votes

Rank #16,763 CitrusWoody

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Jil Sander No. 4 takes 6 of 7 categories.

Jil Sander No. 4
Choose it for a aromatic and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in winter.
Lumière de Venise
Choose it for a citrus and woody character. Wins on versatility. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Jil Sander No. 46/7

Lumière de Venise1/7

Ratings & consensus: Jil Sander No. 4
Community sentiment: Jil Sander No. 4
Longevity: Jil Sander No. 4
Sillage & projection: Jil Sander No. 4
Value for money: Jil Sander No. 4
Versatility: Lumière de Venise
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Jil Sander No. 4

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Jil Sander No. 4Jil Sander

Lumière de VeniseChabaud Maison de Parfum

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.03/ 5 · 2,005 votes

Have 68%Had 32%Want 0%

3.65/ 5 · 83 votes

Have 30%Had 18%Want 53%

Category winnerJil Sander No. 4Rating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

38%Love

43%Like

5%Ok

13%Dislike

1%Hate

2,005 votes

28%Love

37%Like

10%Ok

23%Dislike

2%Hate

83 votes

Category winnerJil Sander No. 4Most positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity74

〰 Sillage68

♥ Love / hate76

⏱ Longevity65

〰 Sillage65

♥ Love / hate66

Category winners

LongevityJil Sander No. 4

SillageJil Sander No. 4

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value70

¤ Price value50

Category winnerJil Sander No. 4Best value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

aromatic100%

powdery92%

woody84%

white floral77%

sweet69%

warm spicy61%

citrus100%

woody92%

patchouli84%

fruity77%

warm spicy69%

white floral61%

Scent match35%Some overlap · both woody, white floral and warm spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

PlumGalbanumPeachGeraniumRoseAniseBergamot

Heart

TuberoseCarnationNutmegYlang-YlangMyrrhJasmineHeliotropeTarragon

Base

CivetSandalwoodOakmossCorianderVanillaTonka BeanMuskAmbergris

Top15-30 mins

GrapefruitBergamot

Heart2-4 hrs

PeachJasmineRoseViolet

Base6-8 hrs

PatchouliTonka BeanWoody NotesOakmossSandalwood

InformationalShared notesPeach, Rose, Bergamot and Jasmine. Durations are only published for Lumière de Venise, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring39

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Spring100

Summer32

Fall77

Winter41

Day100

Night57

Category winnerLumière de VeniseMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men2

Unisex21

Women77

Men12

Unisex19

Women69

Work 38%Casual 32%Date 19%Party 11%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#682

PerfumerMichel Almairac

Launched—

Reviews193

Overall rank#16,763

PerfumerSophie Chabaud

Launched—

Reviews10

Category winnerJil Sander No. 4Higher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Jil Sander No. 4 delivers a lush blend of spiced dark plum, velvety peach, and creamy tuberose layered over an earthy base of oakmoss, sandalwood, and warm vanilla. It opens with an unmistakable burst of sweet fruit and aromatic green galbanum before settling into a powdery floral heart warmed by nutmeg and carnation.…

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Lumière de Venise opens with a sharp burst of bitter grapefruit and zesty bergamot. The citrus sparkles immediately. Within ten minutes, the initial solvent lift settles into a gentle heart of velvet peach, clean jasmine, and powdery violet petals. It feels crisp and light. As the drydown approaches, earthy patchouli …

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Jil Sander No. 4 or Lumière de Venise?

Jil Sander No. 4 takes 6 of 7 categories. Jil Sander No. 4 is rated 4.03/5 from 2,005 votes; Lumière de Venise is rated 3.65/5 from 83 votes. Choose Jil Sander No. 4 for a aromatic and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in winter. Choose Lumière de Venise for a citrus and woody character. Wins on versatility. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Jil Sander No. 4 or Lumière de Venise?

Jil Sander No. 4 lasts longest (Jil Sander No. 4 74/100, Lumière de Venise 65/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Jil Sander No. 4 or Lumière de Venise?

Jil Sander No. 4 projects furthest (Jil Sander No. 4 68/100, Lumière de Venise 65/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Jil Sander No. 4 and Lumière de Venise smell similar?

Some overlap: a 35% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, white floral and warm spicy accords. Common notes include Peach, Rose, Bergamot and Jasmine.

Is Jil Sander No. 4 or Lumière de Venise better for summer or winter?

For summer, Lumière de Venise is the stronger pick. For winter, Jil Sander No. 4 is the stronger pick. Lumière de Venise suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Jil Sander No. 4 and Lumière de Venise?

Jil Sander No. 4 has top notes of Plum, Galbanum, Peach and Geranium, heart notes of Tuberose, Carnation, Nutmeg and Ylang-Ylang, a base of Civet, Sandalwood, Oakmoss and Coriander. Lumière de Venise has top notes of Grapefruit and Bergamot, heart notes of Peach, Jasmine, Rose and Violet, a base of Patchouli, Tonka Bean, Woody Notes and Oakmoss.