John vs Surf
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
40%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2.
JohnChoose it for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on longevity and value for money. Best in spring, daytime wear.
SurfChoose it for a citrus and aromatic character. Wins on sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in summer, daytime wear.
John2/4
Surf2/4
- Ratings & consensus
- Not scored
- Community sentiment
- Not scored
- Longevity
- John
- Sillage & projection
- Surf
- Value for money
- John
- Versatility
- Not scored
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Surf
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
JohnPocket ParfumSurfArmafWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split3.75/ 5 · 4 votes
Have 40%Had 30%Want 30%
3.45/ 5 · 20 votes
Have 48%Had 10%Want 42%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate50%Love
25%Like
0%Ok
0%Dislike
25%Hate
4 votes · too few to score
20%Love
40%Like
15%Ok
15%Dislike
10%Hate
20 votes · too few to score
Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityJohn
SillageSurf
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerJohnBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothwoody100%
aromatic92%
warm spicy84%
citrus77%
amber69%
powdery61%
citrus100%
aromatic90%
fresh spicy80%
aquatic70%
lavender60%
fresh50%
Scent match40%Some overlap · both aromatic and citrus
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop
Spicy NotesLavenderGreen NotesGrapefruitBergamot
Heart
GingerGardeniaVioletSage
Base
LabdanumSandalwoodMuskGuaiac WoodVetiverIncense
Top
LemonBergamotGrapefruit
Heart
Watery NotesLavenderSageGreen Notes
Base
OakmossGuaiac WoodMuskPatchouli
InformationalShared notesLavender, Green Notes, Grapefruit and Bergamot. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring100
Summer100
Fall100
Winter67
Day100
Night75
Spring82
Summer100
Fall9
Winter18
Day100
Night–
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#62,173
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews0
Overall rank#34,616
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews3
Category winnerSurfHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotJohn by Pocket Parfum opens with a sharp burst of bergamot and crisp grapefruit, immediately layered over crushed green leaves and fresh lavender. As the initial citrus sparkle settles, a warm heart of spicy ginger, gardenia, and violet takes over, creating a cool floral-spicy contrast on skin. The base gradually turn…
Reviews →Armaf Surf kicks off with a sharp splash of fresh grapefruit and bitter bergamot, bringing an instant, breezy energy. Rather than fading into thin air, this bright opening settles into a clean, herbal heart of sage and green notes. It mimics the salty, damp air of a morning coast line. As it warms on the skin, the fra…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, John or Surf?
No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2. John is rated 3.75/5 from 4 votes; Surf is rated 3.45/5 from 20 votes. Choose John for a woody and aromatic character. Wins on longevity and value for money. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose Surf for a citrus and aromatic character. Wins on sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in summer, daytime wear.
Which lasts longer, John or Surf?
John lasts longest (John 65/100, Surf 61/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, John or Surf?
Surf projects furthest (Surf 48/100, John 44/100), based on community performance votes.
Do John and Surf smell similar?
Some overlap: a 40% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share aromatic and citrus accords. Common notes include Lavender, Green Notes, Grapefruit and Bergamot.
Is John or Surf better for summer or winter?
John suits daytime wear; Surf suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in John and Surf?
John has top notes of Spicy Notes, Lavender, Green Notes and Grapefruit, heart notes of Ginger, Gardenia, Violet and Sage, a base of Labdanum, Sandalwood, Musk and Guaiac Wood. Surf has top notes of Lemon, Bergamot and Grapefruit, heart notes of Watery Notes, Lavender, Sage and Green Notes, a base of Oakmoss, Guaiac Wood, Musk and Patchouli.
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