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Joie vs Secret Flower

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 7 ratings analysed
Some overlap
Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Secret Flower takes 2 of 3 categories.

  • Joie

    Choose it for a fruity and rose character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, day or night wear.

  • Secret Flower

    Choose it for a amber and fruity character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring.

Joie1/3
Secret Flower2/3
Ratings & consensus
Not scored
Community sentiment
Not scored
Longevity
Secret Flower
Sillage & projection
Secret Flower
Value for money
Not scored
Versatility
Not scored
Note pyramid (duration)
Not scored
Fragranxe ranking
Joie

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance
JoieJacques Battini
Secret FlowerTom Frank
Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split
4.25/ 5 · 4 votes
Have 16%Had 11%Want 74%
4.00/ 5 · 3 votes
Have 7%Had 7%Want 86%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate
25%Love
75%Like
0%Ok
0%Dislike
0%Hate

4 votes · too few to score

33%Love
33%Like
33%Ok
0%Dislike
0%Hate

3 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores
⏱ Longevity65
〰 Sillage56
♥ Love / hate81
⏱ Longevity80
〰 Sillage88
♥ Love / hate75
Category winners

LongevitySecret Flower

SillageSecret Flower

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it
¤ Price value50
¤ Price valueN/A
Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both
fruity100%
rose88%
woody77%
powdery65%
white floral53%
sweet42%
amber100%
fruity92%
floral84%
sweet77%
vanilla69%
white floral61%
Scent match44%Some overlap · both fruity, sweet and white floral

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared
Top
Black CurrantRaspberryGreen AppleWhite Peach
Heart
JasmineRosePatchouli LeafViolet
Base
SandalwoodVanillaWhite Musk
Top
RaspberryBlack CurrantRed Berries
Heart
JasmineRoseLilacVioletAmber
Base
BenzoinVanillaCaramelSandalwood
InformationalShared notesBlack Currant, Raspberry, Jasmine and Rose. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season
Spring50
Summer0
Fall50
Winter100
Day100
Night100
Spring100
Summer0
Fall0
Winter0
Day–
Night–
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes
Men0
Unisex0
Women100
Men0
Unisex0
Women100
InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#40,749

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews3

Overall rank#63,161

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerJoieHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Joie by Jacques Battini offers a bright, energetic introduction led by black currant and green apple. As it wears, the scent shifts into a floral heart of jasmine and rose before settling into a soft base of sandalwood and vanilla. It is a sweet, fruity choice for those seeking a playful and long-lasting daily signatu…

Reviews →

Secret Flower by Tom Frank hits the skin with a bright splash of tart raspberry and sharp black currant, immediately establishing a lively, fruity presence. This initial sweetness quickly softens as a rich floral heart of purple lilac and powdery violet emerges, grounding the sugary fruits in a soft, velvet texture. O…

Reviews →
InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Recent comparisons

Head-to-head activity from live history

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Joie or Secret Flower?

Secret Flower takes 2 of 3 categories. Joie is rated 4.25/5 from 4 votes; Secret Flower is rated 4.00/5 from 3 votes. Choose Joie for a fruity and rose character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter, day or night wear. Choose Secret Flower for a amber and fruity character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring.

Which lasts longer, Joie or Secret Flower?

Secret Flower lasts longest (Secret Flower 80/100, Joie 65/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Joie or Secret Flower?

Secret Flower projects furthest (Secret Flower 88/100, Joie 56/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Joie and Secret Flower smell similar?

Some overlap: a 44% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share fruity, sweet and white floral accords. Common notes include Black Currant, Raspberry, Jasmine and Rose.

Is Joie or Secret Flower better for summer or winter?

Joie suits day or night wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Joie and Secret Flower?

Joie has top notes of Black Currant, Raspberry, Green Apple and White Peach, heart notes of Jasmine, Rose, Patchouli Leaf and Violet, a base of Sandalwood, Vanilla and White Musk. Secret Flower has top notes of Raspberry, Black Currant and Red Berries, heart notes of Jasmine, Rose, Lilac and Violet, a base of Benzoin, Vanilla, Caramel and Sandalwood.

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