L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte vs MDM Black
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
45%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
MDM Black takes 4 of 5 categories.
L'Homme Idéal Cologne ForteChoose it for a citrus and almond character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.
MDM BlackChoose it for a aromatic and citrus character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, day or night wear.
L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte1/5
MDM Black4/5
- Ratings & consensus
- Not scored
- Community sentiment
- Not scored
- Longevity
- MDM Black
- Sillage & projection
- MDM Black
- Value for money
- MDM Black
- Versatility
- Not scored
- Note pyramid (duration)
- MDM Black
- Fragranxe ranking
- L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
L'Homme Idéal Cologne ForteGuerlainMDM BlackMarc de la MorandiereWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split4.63/ 5 · 54 votes
Have 11%Had 0%Want 89%
4.29/ 5 · 7 votes
Have 27%Had 16%Want 57%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate83%Love
6%Like
6%Ok
2%Dislike
4%Hate
54 votes
71%Love
14%Like
0%Ok
0%Dislike
14%Hate
7 votes · too few to score
Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityMDM Black
SillageMDM Black
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerMDM BlackBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothcitrus100%
almond83%
aromatic65%
fresh spicy48%
nutty30%
aromatic100%
citrus92%
woody84%
fresh spicy77%
warm spicy69%
earthy61%
Scent match45%Some overlap · both citrus, aromatic and fresh spicy
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop30 to 45 minutes
GrapefruitLemon PeelBergamot
Heart3 to 4 hours
AlmondCinnamon
Base6 to 8 hours
IncenseVanillinVetiver
Top15-30 mins
BergamotOrange BlossomRosemaryMandarin OrangeMintGrapefruitLemonGreen Orange
Heart2-4 hrs
LavenderCinnamonCarnationRoseGuaiac WoodNutmegGreen Apple
Base6-8+ hrs
PatchouliMossVetiverVanillaSandalwoodIncenseTonka BeanMusk
Category winnerMDM BlackLongest dry-down: 6-8+ hrs
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring100
Summer93
Fall65
Winter30
Day100
Night54
Spring100
Summer67
Fall100
Winter100
Day100
Night100
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#3,350
PerfumerDelphine Jelk
Launched—
Reviews44
Overall rank#39,946
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews1
Category winnerL'Homme Idéal Cologne ForteHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotL'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte by Guerlain delivers a crisp burst of tart grapefruit, sharp lemon peel, and zesty bergamot right from the initial spray. As that energetic citrus opening settles, the fragrance introduces the brand's signature creamy almond note paired with a subtle touch of warm cinnamon. The base grounds…
Reviews →Marc de la Morandiere MDM Black hits the skin with a brisk surge of bergamot, sharp lemon, and cool mint before quickly revealing a deeper, darker core. It bridges sunny Mediterranean brightness and shadowy woods. The opening citrus spark softens within twenty minutes as aromatic lavender, warm cinnamon, and green app…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte or MDM Black?
MDM Black takes 4 of 5 categories. L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte is rated 4.63/5 from 54 votes; MDM Black is rated 4.29/5 from 7 votes. Choose L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte for a citrus and almond character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose MDM Black for a aromatic and citrus character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, day or night wear.
Which lasts longer, L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte or MDM Black?
MDM Black lasts longest (MDM Black 83/100, L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte 76/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte or MDM Black?
MDM Black projects furthest (MDM Black 83/100, L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte 66/100), based on community performance votes.
Do L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte and MDM Black smell similar?
Some overlap: a 45% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share citrus, aromatic and fresh spicy accords. Common notes include Grapefruit, Bergamot, Cinnamon and Incense.
Is L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte or MDM Black better for summer or winter?
L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte suits daytime wear; MDM Black suits day or night wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte and MDM Black?
L'Homme Idéal Cologne Forte has top notes of Grapefruit, Lemon Peel and Bergamot, heart notes of Almond and Cinnamon, a base of Incense, Vanillin and Vetiver. MDM Black has top notes of Bergamot, Orange Blossom, Rosemary and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Lavender, Cinnamon, Carnation and Rose, a base of Patchouli, Moss, Vetiver and Vanilla.
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