Fragrance comparison

Message In A Perfume vs Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 30 Oct 2026 91 ratings analysed

Message In A Perfume

Mark Buxton

3.6282 votes

Rank #26,306 White FloralAnimalic

Full profile Similar & dupes

46%scent match

Some overlap

Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23

Roja Dove

4.449 votes

Rank #37,290 WoodyWhite Floral

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

No clear winner: the 2 categories split 1–1.

Message In A Perfume
Choose it for a white floral and animalic character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23
Choose it for a woody and white floral character. Wins on sillage & projection. Best in spring, evening wear.

Message In A Perfume1/2

Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 231/2

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Not scored
Sillage & projection: Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Message In A Perfume

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Message In A PerfumeMark Buxton

Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23Roja Dove

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.62/ 5 · 82 votes

Have 46%Had 15%Want 39%

4.44/ 5 · 9 votes

Have 25%Had 0%Want 75%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

18%Love

41%Like

27%Ok

11%Dislike

2%Hate

82 votes

67%Love

22%Like

0%Ok

11%Dislike

0%Hate

9 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity62

〰 Sillage56

♥ Love / hate66

⏱ LongevityN/A

〰 Sillage75

♥ Love / hate86

Category winners

LongevityNo data

SillagePierre de Velay Extrait No. 23

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value55

¤ Price valueN/A

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

white floral100%

animalic92%

floral84%

amber77%

musky69%

citrus61%

woody100%

white floral92%

citrus84%

amber77%

powdery69%

animalic61%

Scent match46%Some overlap · both white floral, amber and animalic

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top30 to 45 minutes

MagnoliaYlang-YlangNeroli

Heart2 to 3 hours

Jasmine SambacOrange BlossomRose Oil

Base3 to 5 hours

CivetAmbergrisSandalwoodLabdanum

Top

Mandarin OrangeAldehydesBergamotOrange Blossom

Heart

JasmineClovesRoseYlang-YlangViolet

Base

SandalwoodBenzoinCedarVetiverOakmossTobaccoLeatherCivet

InformationalShared notesYlang-Ylang, Orange Blossom, Civet and Sandalwood. Durations are only published for Message In A Perfume, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring90

Summer71

Fall100

Winter62

Day100

Night60

Spring100

Summer0

Fall100

Winter100

Day–

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men5

Unisex25

Women70

Not enough votes yet

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#26,306

PerfumerMark Buxton

Launched—

Reviews4

Overall rank#37,290

PerfumerRoja Dove

Launched—

Reviews1

Category winnerMessage In A PerfumeHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Message In A Perfume by Mark Buxton presents a bright white floral profile backed by an animalic, musky foundation. The opening brings an instant splash of crisp neroli and lush magnolia, supported by the creamy sweetness of ylang-ylang. As the initial brightness settles, orange blossom, jasmine sambac, and rose oil u…

Reviews →

Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 reads as an old-school floral chypre with a bright citrus and aldehydic lift, then settles into a warmer, more sensual mix of white florals, oakmoss, woods, leather, and soft sweetness. It feels polished, vintage-leaning, and quite dressed up, especially if you enjoy rich florals with a …

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Message In A Perfume or Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23?

No clear winner: the 2 categories split 1–1. Message In A Perfume is rated 3.62/5 from 82 votes; Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 is rated 4.44/5 from 9 votes. Choose Message In A Perfume for a white floral and animalic character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear. Choose Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 for a woody and white floral character. Wins on sillage & projection. Best in spring, evening wear.

Which projects more, Message In A Perfume or Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23?

Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 projects furthest (Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 75/100, Message In A Perfume 56/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Message In A Perfume and Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 smell similar?

Some overlap: a 46% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share white floral, amber and animalic accords. Common notes include Ylang-Ylang, Orange Blossom, Civet and Sandalwood.

Is Message In A Perfume or Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 better for summer or winter?

Message In A Perfume suits daytime wear; Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Message In A Perfume and Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23?

Message In A Perfume has top notes of Magnolia, Ylang-Ylang and Neroli, heart notes of Jasmine Sambac, Orange Blossom and Rose Oil, a base of Civet, Ambergris, Sandalwood and Labdanum. Pierre de Velay Extrait No. 23 has top notes of Mandarin Orange, Aldehydes, Bergamot and Orange Blossom, heart notes of Jasmine, Cloves, Rose and Ylang-Ylang, a base of Sandalwood, Benzoin, Cedar and Vetiver.