Fragrance comparison

Message In A Perfume vs Pierre de Velay No. 23

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 30 Oct 2026 120 ratings analysed

Message In A Perfume

Mark Buxton

3.6282 votes

Rank #26,306 White FloralAnimalic

Full profile Similar & dupes

50%scent match

Some overlap

5 wins

Pierre de Velay No. 23

Roja Dove

4.1138 votes

Rank #15,725 AmberWoody

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 takes 5 of 7 categories.

Message In A Perfume
Choose it for a white floral and animalic character. Wins on value for money and versatility. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Pierre de Velay No. 23
Choose it for a amber and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in spring, evening wear.

Message In A Perfume2/7

Pierre de Velay No. 235/7

Ratings & consensus: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Community sentiment: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Longevity: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Sillage & projection: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Value for money: Message In A Perfume
Versatility: Message In A Perfume
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Pierre de Velay No. 23

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Message In A PerfumeMark Buxton

Pierre de Velay No. 23Roja Dove

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.62/ 5 · 82 votes

Have 46%Had 15%Want 39%

4.11/ 5 · 38 votes

Have 35%Had 11%Want 54%

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Rating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

18%Love

41%Like

27%Ok

11%Dislike

2%Hate

82 votes

53%Love

24%Like

8%Ok

13%Dislike

3%Hate

38 votes

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Most positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity62

〰 Sillage56

♥ Love / hate66

⏱ Longevity75

〰 Sillage61

♥ Love / hate78

Category winners

LongevityPierre de Velay No. 23

SillagePierre de Velay No. 23

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value55

¤ Price value38

Category winnerMessage In A PerfumeBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

white floral100%

animalic92%

floral84%

amber77%

musky69%

citrus61%

amber100%

woody92%

animalic84%

musky77%

powdery69%

white floral61%

Scent match50%Some overlap · both amber, animalic and white floral

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top30 to 45 minutes

MagnoliaYlang-YlangNeroli

Heart2 to 3 hours

Jasmine SambacOrange BlossomRose Oil

Base3 to 5 hours

CivetAmbergrisSandalwoodLabdanum

Top

AldehydesBergamotMandarin Orange

Heart

Ylang-YlangJasmineVioletRose de MaiOrange Blossom

Base

AmbergrisCivetLabdanumLeatherMuskCedarOakmossTobacco

InformationalShared notesYlang-Ylang, Orange Blossom, Civet and Ambergris. Durations are only published for Message In A Perfume, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring90

Summer71

Fall100

Winter62

Day100

Night60

Spring100

Summer31

Fall100

Winter77

Day83

Night100

Category winnerMessage In A PerfumeMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men5

Unisex25

Women70

Men11

Unisex68

Women21

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#26,306

PerfumerMark Buxton

Launched—

Reviews4

Overall rank#15,725

PerfumerRoja Dove

Launched—

Reviews8

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Higher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Message In A Perfume by Mark Buxton presents a bright white floral profile backed by an animalic, musky foundation. The opening brings an instant splash of crisp neroli and lush magnolia, supported by the creamy sweetness of ylang-ylang. As the initial brightness settles, orange blossom, jasmine sambac, and rose oil u…

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Pierre de Velay No. 23 opens with bright aldehydes and soft citrus, then quickly settles into a powdery floral heart of ylang-ylang, jasmine, violet, rose and orange blossom. The real twist is underneath, where amber, leather, tobacco and animalic notes give it a darker, more intimate edge. It suits someone who enjoys…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Message In A Perfume or Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 takes 5 of 7 categories. Message In A Perfume is rated 3.62/5 from 82 votes; Pierre de Velay No. 23 is rated 4.11/5 from 38 votes. Choose Message In A Perfume for a white floral and animalic character. Wins on value for money and versatility. Best in fall, daytime wear. Choose Pierre de Velay No. 23 for a amber and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in spring, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, Message In A Perfume or Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 lasts longest (Pierre de Velay No. 23 75/100, Message In A Perfume 62/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Message In A Perfume or Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 projects furthest (Pierre de Velay No. 23 61/100, Message In A Perfume 56/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Message In A Perfume and Pierre de Velay No. 23 smell similar?

Some overlap: a 50% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share amber, animalic and white floral accords. Common notes include Ylang-Ylang, Orange Blossom, Civet and Ambergris.

Is Message In A Perfume or Pierre de Velay No. 23 better for summer or winter?

For summer, Message In A Perfume is the stronger pick. For winter, Pierre de Velay No. 23 is the stronger pick. Message In A Perfume suits daytime wear; Pierre de Velay No. 23 suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Message In A Perfume and Pierre de Velay No. 23?

Message In A Perfume has top notes of Magnolia, Ylang-Ylang and Neroli, heart notes of Jasmine Sambac, Orange Blossom and Rose Oil, a base of Civet, Ambergris, Sandalwood and Labdanum. Pierre de Velay No. 23 has top notes of Aldehydes, Bergamot and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Ylang-Ylang, Jasmine, Violet and Rose de Mai, a base of Ambergris, Civet, Labdanum and Leather.