Fragrance comparison

No. 17 vs Black Origami

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 22 Oct 2026 242 ratings analysed

No. 17

Sebastian Signs

5.002 votes

Rank #33,579 Warm SpicyPowdery

Full profile Similar & dupes

30%scent match

Clearly different

Black Origami

Maison Alhambra

4.17240 votes

Rank #4,059 Warm SpicySweet

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2.

No. 17
Choose it for a warm spicy and powdery character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection.
Black Origami
Choose it for a warm spicy and sweet character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.

No. 172/4

Black Origami2/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: No. 17
Sillage & projection: No. 17
Value for money: Black Origami
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Black Origami

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

No. 17Sebastian Signs

Black OrigamiMaison Alhambra

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

5.00/ 5 · 2 votes

Have 15%Had 8%Want 77%

4.17/ 5 · 240 votes

Have 57%Had 8%Want 35%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

100%Love

0%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

2 votes · too few to score

44%Love

38%Like

9%Ok

7%Dislike

1%Hate

240 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity90

〰 Sillage75

♥ Love / hate100

⏱ Longevity66

〰 Sillage56

♥ Love / hate79

Category winners

LongevityNo. 17

SillageNo. 17

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value50

¤ Price value86

Category winnerBlack OrigamiBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

warm spicy100%

powdery92%

musky84%

amber77%

chocolate69%

smoky61%

warm spicy100%

sweet92%

earthy84%

woody77%

floral69%

amber61%

Scent match30%Clearly different · both warm spicy and amber

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Chocolate

Heart

IncenseMuskVanillaSandalwood

Base

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Top

TruffleGardeniaJasmineYlang YlangCassisTangerineBergamotItalian Lemon

Heart

OrchidSpicy NotesFruity NotesLotus

Base

ChocolatePatchouliVanillaAmberIncenseSandalwoodWhite MuskVetiver

InformationalShared notesChocolate, Incense, Vanilla and Sandalwood. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

No season votes yet

Spring46

Summer20

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men0

Unisex100

Women0

Men11

Unisex62

Women27

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#33,579

PerfumerSherri Sebastian

Launched—

Reviews2

Overall rank#4,059

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews37

Category winnerBlack OrigamiHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

No. 17 by Sebastian Signs is a bold oriental vanilla fragrance designed for both men and women. It opens with an intense hit of dark chocolate before quickly transitioning into a base of incense, musk, vanilla, and creamy sandalwood. This perfume is intended to react uniquely with your skin chemistry, making it a high…

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Black Origami by Maison Alhambra is a bold, dark floral scent designed for evening wear. It layers rich truffle and gardenia over a complex base of chocolate, patchouli, and incense. This composition creates a dense, earthy aroma that suits cooler weather. It leans unisex, offering a sophisticated alternative for thos…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, No. 17 or Black Origami?

No clear winner: the 4 categories split 2–2. No. 17 is rated 5.00/5 from 2 votes; Black Origami is rated 4.17/5 from 240 votes. Choose No. 17 for a warm spicy and powdery character. Wins on longevity and sillage & projection. Choose Black Origami for a warm spicy and sweet character. Wins on value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.

Which lasts longer, No. 17 or Black Origami?

No. 17 lasts longest (No. 17 90/100, Black Origami 66/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, No. 17 or Black Origami?

No. 17 projects furthest (No. 17 75/100, Black Origami 56/100), based on community performance votes.

Do No. 17 and Black Origami smell similar?

Clearly different: a 30% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share warm spicy and amber accords. Common notes include Chocolate, Incense, Vanilla and Sandalwood.

What are the notes in No. 17 and Black Origami?

No. 17 has top notes of Chocolate, heart notes of Incense, Musk, Vanilla and Sandalwood. Black Origami has top notes of Truffle, Gardenia, Jasmine and Ylang Ylang, heart notes of Orchid, Spicy Notes, Fruity Notes and Lotus, a base of Chocolate, Patchouli, Vanilla and Amber.