Fragrance comparison

No. 4 vs Timur

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 14 Nov 2026 86 ratings analysed

3 wins

No. 4

Lanoe

3.8321 votes

Rank #13,064 WoodyWarm Spicy

Full profile Similar & dupes

60%scent match

Closely related

Timur

Phebo

3.8565 votes

Rank #28,717 Warm SpicyFresh Spicy

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

No. 4 takes 3 of 4 categories.

No. 4
Choose it for a woody and warm spicy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.
Timur
Choose it for a warm spicy and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus. Best in fall, daytime wear.

No. 43/4

Timur1/4

Ratings & consensus: Timur
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: No. 4
Sillage & projection: No. 4
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: No. 4

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

No. 4Lanoe

TimurPhebo

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.83/ 5 · 21 votes

Have 0%Had 13%Want 88%

3.85/ 5 · 65 votes

Have 63%Had 21%Want 15%

Category winnerTimurRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

0%Love

100%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

1 vote · too few to score

28%Love

45%Like

15%Ok

9%Dislike

3%Hate

65 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity76

〰 Sillage56

♥ Love / hate76

⏱ Longevity59

〰 Sillage51

♥ Love / hate71

Category winners

LongevityNo. 4

SillageNo. 4

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price valueN/A

¤ Price value55

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

warm spicy91%

fresh spicy83%

powdery74%

earthy65%

floral56%

warm spicy100%

fresh spicy92%

aromatic84%

woody77%

citrus69%

floral61%

Scent match60%Closely related · both warm spicy, woody and fresh spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

GrapefruitLavender

Heart

PepperOrchidIrisGrass

Base

Cashmere WoodCedarSandalwoodPatchouliVetiver

Top

PepperCardamomGrapefruit

Heart

MagnoliaLavenderCashmere Wood

Base

PatchouliVetiverAmber

InformationalShared notesGrapefruit, Lavender, Pepper and Cashmere Wood. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer0

Fall100

Winter0

Day100

Night–

Spring92

Summer42

Fall100

Winter75

Day100

Night85

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Not enough votes yet

Men62

Unisex35

Women4

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#13,064

PerfumerSimone Schmelzer

Launched—

Reviews33

Overall rank#28,717

PerfumerSerge Majoullier

Launched—

Reviews2

Category winnerNo. 4Higher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

No. 4 by Lanoe opens with a brisk mix of grapefruit and lavender, then settles into a drier woody heart with pepper, iris, grass, and a soft floral touch. The overall feel is aromatic, earthy, and lightly powdery rather than sweet. It reads like a polished woody spicy unisex scent with a smooth sandalwood, cedar, patc…

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Phebo Timur opens with a sharp snap of Nepalese Timur pepper and bitter grapefruit, backed by a cool kick of green cardamom. As the initial citrus sparkle settles on skin, magnolia and lavender soften the top-heavy spice before revealing a smooth core of cashmere wood. The dry down turns distinctly woody and earthy th…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, No. 4 or Timur?

No. 4 takes 3 of 4 categories. No. 4 is rated 3.83/5 from 21 votes; Timur is rated 3.85/5 from 65 votes. Choose No. 4 for a woody and warm spicy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose Timur for a warm spicy and fresh spicy character. Wins on ratings & consensus. Best in fall, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, No. 4 or Timur?

No. 4 lasts longest (No. 4 76/100, Timur 59/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, No. 4 or Timur?

No. 4 projects furthest (No. 4 56/100, Timur 51/100), based on community performance votes.

Do No. 4 and Timur smell similar?

Closely related: a 60% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share warm spicy, woody and fresh spicy accords. Common notes include Grapefruit, Lavender, Pepper and Cashmere Wood.

Is No. 4 or Timur better for summer or winter?

No. 4 suits daytime wear; Timur suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in No. 4 and Timur?

No. 4 has top notes of Grapefruit and Lavender, heart notes of Pepper, Orchid, Iris and Grass, a base of Cashmere Wood, Cedar, Sandalwood and Patchouli. Timur has top notes of Pepper, Cardamom and Grapefruit, heart notes of Magnolia, Lavender and Cashmere Wood, a base of Patchouli, Vetiver and Amber.