Fragrance comparison

Noire De Mai vs Pierre de Velay No. 11

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 15 Oct 2026 175 ratings analysed

4 wins

Noire De Mai

Veronique Gabai

4.16146 votes

Rank #30,245 RoseWoody

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22%scent match

Clearly different

Pierre de Velay No. 11

Roja Dove

4.1729 votes

Rank #30,468 WoodyPowdery

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Noire De Mai takes 4 of 7 categories.

Noire De Mai
Choose it for a rose and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, value for money and versatility. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Pierre de Velay No. 11
Choose it for a woody and powdery character. Wins on community sentiment, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Noire De Mai4/7

Pierre de Velay No. 113/7

Ratings & consensus: Noire De Mai
Community sentiment: Pierre de Velay No. 11
Longevity: Pierre de Velay No. 11
Sillage & projection: Pierre de Velay No. 11
Value for money: Noire De Mai
Versatility: Noire De Mai
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Noire De Mai

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Noire De MaiVeronique Gabai

Pierre de Velay No. 11Roja Dove

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.16/ 5 · 146 votes

Have 44%Had 11%Want 44%

4.17/ 5 · 29 votes

Have 35%Had 10%Want 55%

Category winnerNoire De MaiRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

50%Love

27%Like

16%Ok

5%Dislike

3%Hate

146 votes

48%Love

31%Like

14%Ok

3%Dislike

3%Hate

29 votes

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 11Most positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity62

〰 Sillage53

♥ Love / hate79

⏱ Longevity73

〰 Sillage61

♥ Love / hate79

Category winners

LongevityPierre de Velay No. 11

SillagePierre de Velay No. 11

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value34

¤ Price value32

Category winnerNoire De MaiBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

rose100%

woody90%

amber80%

mossy70%

aquatic60%

floral50%

woody100%

powdery92%

earthy84%

aromatic77%

citrus69%

patchouli61%

Scent match22%Clearly different · both woody

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top15-30 mins

Dew Drop

Heart2-4 hrs

Rose de MaiSea Notes

Base5-8 hrs

AmberWoody NotesOakmoss

Top

CitrusesLemon

Heart

VioletRose de MaiJasmine

Base

CedarRhubarbPatchouliWoody NotesOrris RootOakmossMuskSpicy Notes

InformationalShared notesRose de Mai, Woody Notes and Oakmoss. Durations are only published for Noire De Mai, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring78

Summer51

Fall100

Winter76

Day100

Night53

Spring100

Summer67

Fall100

Winter22

Day100

Night57

Category winnerNoire De MaiMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men5

Unisex20

Women75

Casual 34%Work 31%Date 24%Party 11%

Men44

Unisex44

Women11

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#30,245

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#30,468

PerfumerRoja Dove

Launched—

Reviews4

Category winnerNoire De MaiHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Morning dew hits first. Veronique Gabai Noire De Mai sets fresh Rose de Mai petals against salty sea notes and damp earth, avoiding the powdery sweetness common to traditional rose perfumes. It feels brisk. Within twenty minutes, the bright floral sheen gives way to dark oakmoss, amber, and dry cedar wood, grounding t…

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Pierre de Velay No. 11 is a dry, powdery rose chypre with a bright lemon opening, green tart accents, and a polished woody base. It wears with a quiet luxury feel rather than loud sweetness. Rose, violet, pepper, patchouli, oakmoss, and soft iris tones give it an old-school structure with a cleaner modern finish. It s…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Noire De Mai or Pierre de Velay No. 11?

Noire De Mai takes 4 of 7 categories. Noire De Mai is rated 4.16/5 from 146 votes; Pierre de Velay No. 11 is rated 4.17/5 from 29 votes. Choose Noire De Mai for a rose and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, value for money and versatility. Best in fall, daytime wear. Choose Pierre de Velay No. 11 for a woody and powdery character. Wins on community sentiment, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Noire De Mai or Pierre de Velay No. 11?

Pierre de Velay No. 11 lasts longest (Pierre de Velay No. 11 73/100, Noire De Mai 62/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Noire De Mai or Pierre de Velay No. 11?

Pierre de Velay No. 11 projects furthest (Pierre de Velay No. 11 61/100, Noire De Mai 53/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Noire De Mai and Pierre de Velay No. 11 smell similar?

Clearly different: a 22% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody accords. Common notes include Rose de Mai, Woody Notes and Oakmoss.

Is Noire De Mai or Pierre de Velay No. 11 better for summer or winter?

For summer, Pierre de Velay No. 11 is the stronger pick. For winter, Noire De Mai is the stronger pick. Noire De Mai suits daytime wear; Pierre de Velay No. 11 suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Noire De Mai and Pierre de Velay No. 11?

Noire De Mai has top notes of Dew Drop, heart notes of Rose de Mai and Sea Notes, a base of Amber, Woody Notes and Oakmoss. Pierre de Velay No. 11 has top notes of Citruses and Lemon, heart notes of Violet, Rose de Mai and Jasmine, a base of Cedar, Rhubarb, Patchouli and Woody Notes.