Fragrance comparison

Nombre Noir vs Winter Sun

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 15 Oct 2026 127 ratings analysed

1 wins

Nombre Noir

Shiseido

4.48126 votes

Rank #24,904 AromaticFloral

Full profile Similar & dupes

40%scent match

Some overlap

Winter Sun

Vartan Perfumes

4.001 votes

Rank #61,746 WoodyFloral

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Nombre Noir takes 1 of 1 categories.

Nombre Noir
Choose it for a aromatic and floral character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.
Winter Sun
Choose it for a woody and floral character. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Nombre Noir1/1

Winter Sun0/1

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Not scored
Sillage & projection: Not scored
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Nombre Noir

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Nombre NoirShiseido

Winter SunVartan Perfumes

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.48/ 5 · 126 votes

Have 83%Had 17%Want 0%

4.00/ 5 · 1 votes

Have 0%Had 0%Want 100%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

62%Love

30%Like

2%Ok

5%Dislike

1%Hate

126 votes

0%Love

100%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

1 vote · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity68

〰 Sillage65

♥ Love / hate87

⏱ LongevityN/A

〰 SillageN/A

♥ Love / hate75

Category winners

LongevityNo data

SillageNo data

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value46

¤ Price valueN/A

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

aromatic100%

floral92%

woody84%

rose77%

amber69%

warm spicy61%

woody100%

floral92%

warm spicy84%

yellow floral77%

patchouli69%

vanilla61%

Scent match40%Some overlap · both floral, woody and warm spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

AldehydesPalisander RosewoodCorianderMarjoramBergamot

Heart

Damask RoseOsmanthusGeraniumCarnationOrrisLily-of-the-ValleyJasmineYlang-Ylang

Base

HoneyVetiverSandalwoodMuskTonka BeanBenzoinAmber

Top15-30 mins

CarnationYlang-Ylang

Heart2-4 hrs

Osmanthus

Base6-8+ hrs

PatchouliSandalwoodVanilla

InformationalShared notesOsmanthus, Carnation, Ylang-Ylang and Sandalwood. Durations are only published for Winter Sun, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring76

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Spring100

Summer0

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night79

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men0

Unisex36

Women64

Not enough votes yet

Casual 34%Work 31%Date 26%Party 9%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#24,904

PerfumerJean-Yves Leroy, Serge Lutens

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#61,746

PerfumerKristen Vartan

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerNombre NoirHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Nombre Noir by Shiseido is a legendary creation that immediately sets itself apart through a dark, ink-like damask rose. The opening combines a sharp blast of aldehydes with green marjoram and palisander rosewood, creating a cold, mysterious atmosphere. As it warms on the skin, a rich ylang-ylang and powdery orris roo…

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Winter Sun by Vartan Perfumes cuts through chilly air with bright, unexpected warmth. A quick burst of spicy carnation meets lush ylang-ylang right at the nozzle. It feels golden. Within ten minutes, the initial floral sharpness softens into velvety apricot osmanthus, balanced by dry patchouli and smooth sandalwood. T…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Nombre Noir or Winter Sun?

Nombre Noir takes 1 of 1 categories. Nombre Noir is rated 4.48/5 from 126 votes; Winter Sun is rated 4.00/5 from 1 votes. Choose Nombre Noir for a aromatic and floral character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter. Choose Winter Sun for a woody and floral character. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Do Nombre Noir and Winter Sun smell similar?

Some overlap: a 40% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share floral, woody and warm spicy accords. Common notes include Osmanthus, Carnation, Ylang-Ylang and Sandalwood.

Is Nombre Noir or Winter Sun better for summer or winter?

Winter Sun suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Nombre Noir and Winter Sun?

Nombre Noir has top notes of Aldehydes, Palisander Rosewood, Coriander and Marjoram, heart notes of Damask Rose, Osmanthus, Geranium and Carnation, a base of Honey, Vetiver, Sandalwood and Musk. Winter Sun has top notes of Carnation and Ylang-Ylang, heart notes of Osmanthus, a base of Patchouli, Sandalwood and Vanilla.