Fragrance comparison

Or et Flamme vs Weil Pour Homme (1980)

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 21 Oct 2026 7 ratings analysed

Or et Flamme

Via François

3.673 votes

Rank #61,182 WoodyWhite Floral

Full profile Similar & dupes

49%scent match

Some overlap

3 wins

Weil Pour Homme (1980)

Weil

4.504 votes

Rank #44,120 CitrusWoody

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Weil Pour Homme (1980) takes 3 of 4 categories.

Or et Flamme
Choose it for a woody and white floral character. Wins on value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear.
Weil Pour Homme (1980)
Choose it for a citrus and woody character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, day or night wear.

Or et Flamme1/4

Weil Pour Homme (1980)3/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Weil Pour Homme (1980)
Sillage & projection: Weil Pour Homme (1980)
Value for money: Or et Flamme
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Weil Pour Homme (1980)

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Or et FlammeVia François

Weil Pour Homme (1980)Weil

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.67/ 5 · 3 votes

Have 0%Had 0%Want 100%

4.50/ 5 · 4 votes

Have 63%Had 6%Want 31%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

67%Love

0%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

33%Hate

3 votes · too few to score

75%Love

0%Like

25%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

4 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity20

〰 Sillage25

♥ Love / hate67

⏱ Longevity60

〰 Sillage63

♥ Love / hate88

Category winners

LongevityWeil Pour Homme (1980)

SillageWeil Pour Homme (1980)

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value100

¤ Price value50

Category winnerOr et FlammeBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

white floral90%

aromatic80%

green70%

fresh60%

citrus50%

citrus100%

woody92%

aromatic84%

fresh spicy77%

green69%

earthy61%

Scent match49%Some overlap · both woody, aromatic and citrus

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Notes

Lily of the ValleyPetitgrainCedarClary SageVetiverMoss

No top / heart / base split published

Top

LimeAldehydesBergamotPetitgrainMugwortLavenderRosemaryLemon

Heart

BasilJasmineCarnationClary SageGeranium

Base

VetiverLeatherCedarwoodLabdanumMossTonka

InformationalShared notesPetitgrain, Clary Sage, Vetiver and Moss. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring0

Summer100

Fall0

Winter0

Day100

Night–

Spring100

Summer33

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men0

Unisex0

Women100

Men100

Unisex0

Women0

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#61,182

PerfumerFrancois Ledoux

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#44,120

PerfumerFrançois Robert

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerWeil Pour Homme (1980)Higher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Or et Flamme by Via Francois introduces a fresh take on the classic oriental fougere. The fragrance opens with the bitter green spark of petitgrain bigarade, which transitions into a clean floral heart of lily of the valley. A base of vetiver, cedar, and oakmoss grounds the scent, making it an easy, office-safe choice…

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Weil Pour Homme (1980) opens with a sharp burst of bitter lime, fresh rosemary, and soapy aldehydes. As it settles onto the skin, the initial crispness transitions into a dry, aromatic heart of clary sage, basil, and spicy carnation. This green complexity creates a clean yet deeply earthy aura, typical of masculine re…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Or et Flamme or Weil Pour Homme (1980)?

Weil Pour Homme (1980) takes 3 of 4 categories. Or et Flamme is rated 3.67/5 from 3 votes; Weil Pour Homme (1980) is rated 4.50/5 from 4 votes. Choose Or et Flamme for a woody and white floral character. Wins on value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear. Choose Weil Pour Homme (1980) for a citrus and woody character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, day or night wear.

Which lasts longer, Or et Flamme or Weil Pour Homme (1980)?

Weil Pour Homme (1980) lasts longest (Weil Pour Homme (1980) 60/100, Or et Flamme 20/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Or et Flamme or Weil Pour Homme (1980)?

Weil Pour Homme (1980) projects furthest (Weil Pour Homme (1980) 63/100, Or et Flamme 25/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Or et Flamme and Weil Pour Homme (1980) smell similar?

Some overlap: a 49% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, aromatic and citrus accords. Common notes include Petitgrain, Clary Sage, Vetiver and Moss.

Is Or et Flamme or Weil Pour Homme (1980) better for summer or winter?

Or et Flamme suits daytime wear; Weil Pour Homme (1980) suits day or night wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Or et Flamme and Weil Pour Homme (1980)?

Or et Flamme features Lily of the Valley, Petitgrain, Cedar, Clary Sage and Vetiver. Weil Pour Homme (1980) has top notes of Lime, Aldehydes, Bergamot and Petitgrain, heart notes of Basil, Jasmine, Carnation and Clary Sage, a base of Vetiver, Leather, Cedarwood and Labdanum.