Fragrance comparison

Or et Noir vs YSL Paris L'Edition Venini

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 10 Oct 2026 153 ratings analysed

Or et Noir

Caron · 1949

4.22130 votes

Rank #23,705 RoseFloral

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19%scent match

Clearly different

4 wins

YSL Paris L'Edition Venini

Yves Saint Laurent

3.9623 votes

Rank #16,940 FloralWhite Floral

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

YSL Paris L'Edition Venini takes 4 of 5 categories.

Or et Noir
Choose it for a rose and floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus. Best in fall, evening wear.
YSL Paris L'Edition Venini
Choose it for a floral and white floral character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear.

Or et Noir1/5

YSL Paris L'Edition Venini4/5

Ratings & consensus: Or et Noir
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: YSL Paris L'Edition Venini
Sillage & projection: YSL Paris L'Edition Venini
Value for money: YSL Paris L'Edition Venini
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: YSL Paris L'Edition Venini

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Or et NoirCaron

YSL Paris L'Edition VeniniYves Saint Laurent

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.22/ 5 · 130 votes

Have 41%Had 10%Want 49%

3.96/ 5 · 23 votes

Have 16%Had 9%Want 75%

Category winnerOr et NoirRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

36%Love

27%Like

9%Ok

23%Dislike

5%Hate

22 votes · too few to score

43%Love

30%Like

4%Ok

22%Dislike

0%Hate

23 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity66

〰 Sillage65

♥ Love / hate67

⏱ Longevity70

〰 Sillage76

♥ Love / hate74

Category winners

LongevityYSL Paris L'Edition Venini

SillageYSL Paris L'Edition Venini

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value41

¤ Price value50

Category winnerYSL Paris L'Edition VeniniBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

rose100%

floral48%

floral100%

white floral92%

powdery84%

green77%

woody69%

fresh spicy61%

Scent match19%Clearly different · both floral

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top15-30 mins

Bulgarian RoseGeraniumTaif Rose

Heart2-4 hrs

RoseCarnationLily

Base8-12 hrs

OakmossAmberWoody Notes

Top

RoseCurrant budsHawthornGreen NotesMimosaOrange BlossomBergamotNasturtium

Heart

Lily-of-the-ValleyLilyJasmineVioletLime (Linden) BlossomOrrisYlang-Ylang

Base

MuskIrisAmberCedarHeliotropeOakmossSandalwood

InformationalShared notesRose, Lily, Oakmoss and Amber. Durations are only published for Or et Noir, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring83

Summer33

Fall100

Winter67

Day37

Night100

Spring100

Summer60

Fall60

Winter40

Day50

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men0

Unisex0

Women100

Date 49%Party 28%Casual 14%Work 9%

Men33

Unisex33

Women33

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#23,705

PerfumerMichel Morsetti

Launched1949

Reviews3

Overall rank#16,940

PerfumerSophia Grojsman

Launched—

Reviews8

Category winnerYSL Paris L'Edition VeniniHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Or et Noir by Caron is an intense, unapologetic rose built on a vintage mossy foundation. Do not expect a sweet pink petal mist. It hits the skin with a sharp burst of geranium and honeyed Taif rose, carrying a distinct herbal bite that catches your nose immediately. Within twenty minutes, the initial astringency soft…

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YSL Paris L'Edition Venini by Yves Saint Laurent delivers a luxurious celebration of classic French floral perfumery. The fragrance opens with a sparkling rush of green hyacinth, tart currant buds, and zesty bergamot that quickly gives way to a lush heart of Moroccan rose, sweet violet, and delicate lily-of-the-valley…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Or et Noir or YSL Paris L'Edition Venini?

YSL Paris L'Edition Venini takes 4 of 5 categories. Or et Noir is rated 4.22/5 from 130 votes; YSL Paris L'Edition Venini is rated 3.96/5 from 23 votes. Choose Or et Noir for a rose and floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose YSL Paris L'Edition Venini for a floral and white floral character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, Or et Noir or YSL Paris L'Edition Venini?

YSL Paris L'Edition Venini lasts longest (YSL Paris L'Edition Venini 70/100, Or et Noir 66/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Or et Noir or YSL Paris L'Edition Venini?

YSL Paris L'Edition Venini projects furthest (YSL Paris L'Edition Venini 76/100, Or et Noir 65/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Or et Noir and YSL Paris L'Edition Venini smell similar?

Clearly different: a 19% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share floral accords. Common notes include Rose, Lily, Oakmoss and Amber.

Is Or et Noir or YSL Paris L'Edition Venini better for summer or winter?

Or et Noir suits evening wear; YSL Paris L'Edition Venini suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Or et Noir and YSL Paris L'Edition Venini?

Or et Noir has top notes of Bulgarian Rose, Geranium and Taif Rose, heart notes of Rose, Carnation and Lily, a base of Oakmoss, Amber and Woody Notes. YSL Paris L'Edition Venini has top notes of Rose, Currant buds, Hawthorn and Green Notes, heart notes of Lily-of-the-Valley, Lily, Jasmine and Violet, a base of Musk, Iris, Amber and Cedar.