Or Noir vs Venus
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
17%scent match
Clearly different
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Or Noir takes 4 of 6 categories.
Or NoirChoose it for a white floral and yellow floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and sillage & projection. Best in fall, evening wear.
VenusChoose it for a powdery and fresh spicy character. Wins on longevity and versatility. Best in spring, evening wear.
Or Noir4/6
Venus2/6
- Ratings & consensus
- Or Noir
- Community sentiment
- Or Noir
- Longevity
- Venus
- Sillage & projection
- Or Noir
- Value for money
- Not scored
- Versatility
- Venus
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Or Noir
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Or NoirPascal MorabitoVenusVicky TielWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split4.11/ 5 · 196 votes
Have 74%Had 26%Want 0%
3.92/ 5 · 26 votes
Have 21%Had 12%Want 67%
Category winnerOr NoirRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate44%Love
38%Like
4%Ok
13%Dislike
1%Hate
196 votes
31%Love
50%Like
4%Ok
12%Dislike
4%Hate
26 votes
Category winnerOr NoirMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityVenus
SillageOr Noir
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerNot enough dataBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothwhite floral100%
yellow floral92%
woody84%
green77%
earthy69%
mossy61%
powdery100%
fresh spicy92%
fresh84%
warm spicy77%
yellow floral69%
vanilla61%
Scent match17%Clearly different · both yellow floral
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop
AldehydesCassisBergamotTangerine
Heart
NarcissusJasmineMay RoseLily-of-the-ValleyGardeniaIris
Base
oak mossYlang-YlangClovePatchouliVanilleMusk
Top
AldehydesCitruses
Heart
IrisYlang-YlangMimosaViolet LeafSpicesBasilNutmegClove
Base
VanilleWoodsy NotesAmberBenzoinHeliotrope
InformationalShared notesAldehydes, Iris, Ylang-Ylang and Clove. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring56
Summer42
Fall100
Winter88
Day91
Night100
Spring100
Summer75
Fall50
Winter75
Day30
Night100
Category winnerVenusMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#28,004
PerfumerSébastien Martin
Launched—
Reviews0
Overall rank#37,483
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews4
Category winnerOr NoirHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotOr Noir opens with a piercing burst of aldehydes, crisp bergamot, and tart cassis that feels sharp and cool against the skin. Within twenty minutes, the bright top notes give way to a heavy, waxy floral heart dominated by narcissus, May rose, and gardenia. Indolic jasmine adds depth, while iris provides a soft powdery…
Reviews →Vicky Tiel Venus offers a heavy dose of classic floral aldehydes mixed with bright citruses. It soon transitions into a rich, powdery heart of ylang ylang, mimosa, and iris, resting on a base of warm vanilla, benzoin, and heliotrope. It fits women who prefer vintage, bold, clean soapy profiles with a dense woody base.
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Or Noir or Venus?
Or Noir takes 4 of 6 categories. Or Noir is rated 4.11/5 from 196 votes; Venus is rated 3.92/5 from 26 votes. Choose Or Noir for a white floral and yellow floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and sillage & projection. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose Venus for a powdery and fresh spicy character. Wins on longevity and versatility. Best in spring, evening wear.
Which lasts longer, Or Noir or Venus?
Venus lasts longest (Venus 91/100, Or Noir 72/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Or Noir or Venus?
Projection is very close: Or Noir 71/100, Venus 70/100 for sillage.
Do Or Noir and Venus smell similar?
Clearly different: a 17% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share yellow floral accords. Common notes include Aldehydes, Iris, Ylang-Ylang and Clove.
Is Or Noir or Venus better for summer or winter?
For summer, Venus is the stronger pick. For winter, Or Noir is the stronger pick. Or Noir suits evening wear; Venus suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Or Noir and Venus?
Or Noir has top notes of Aldehydes, Cassis, Bergamot and Tangerine, heart notes of Narcissus, Jasmine, May Rose and Lily-of-the-Valley, a base of oak moss, Ylang-Ylang, Clove and Patchouli. Venus has top notes of Aldehydes and Citruses, heart notes of Iris, Ylang-Ylang, Mimosa and Violet Leaf, a base of Vanille, Woodsy Notes, Amber and Benzoin.
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